[Lnc-business] Motion to be considered at November LNC meeting

Arvin Vohra rolandmediadistribution at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 20:44:30 EDT 2012


If we can come to an informal agreement without a motion, I'm perfectly
happy to go with that, or any other option that settles the issue without
creating unneeded distractions at the meeting. -Arvin
On Oct 29, 2012 8:27 PM, "Daniel Wiener" <wiener at alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Arvin,
>
> I understand and agree with the sentiments behind your proposal, that the
> courteous thing to do is to address people in the manner they prefer.  For
> example, if a woman wants her prefix to be Miss or Mrs. or Ms. or nothing,
> I'm happy to oblige.  Starchild prefers "Starchild" and that's what I call
> him.
>
> But courtesy isn't something that's easily legislated or regulated.  It's
> either extended by one person to another or it isn't.  I'm not opposed to
> all standards of conduct.  For example, if we began addressing fellow LNC
> members as "assholes" or "scumbags" or other more colorful terms, that
> would exceed the normal rules of decorum (both implicitly and under
> Robert's Rules) and would require corrective action.  But this doesn't rise
> to that level, and we ought to be able to deal with it in a more informal
> manner.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Arvin Vohra <arvin at arvinvohra.com> wrote:
>
>> In order to not have this debate 200 times at the next meeting, I propose
>> the following:
>>
>> 1. LNC members who request to be addressed without Mr. or Ms. should
>> receive this courtesy from the chair.
>>
>> I would like to set aside 15 seconds or less for discussion. The purpose
>> of "Mr." or "Mrs." is to show respect to our fellow LNC members. If using
>> one of those titles instead does not show that person respect, then it
>> defeats the entire purpose.
>>
>> We can get into all sorts of abstract discussion about the notion of
>> gender itself being a socially constructed method to maintain the status
>> quo, but I don't think we need to take it that far. If an LNC member makes
>> a reasonable request for courtesy, it seems pretty obvious that we should
>> honor that request.
>>
>> -Arvin
>>
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