[Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary - Problematic voting method

Vicki Kirkland vickilp12 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 30 07:17:16 EST 2013


I believe a candidate must receive at least 9 votes (a majority of the
LNC)  to score a win.
Jim and Geoff please clarify.
VK



On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Arvin Vohra <arvin at arvinvohra.com> wrote:

> Just to clarify: a winning candidate needs a majority, not a plurality,
> right? If so, does this voting procedure actually have that particular
> issue?
>
> -Arvinthe
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:40 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I'm not sure how the voting method described below was chosen (perhaps
>> I've overlooked or forgotten an email that would answer that question), but
>> on consideration it seems to me that it was a poor choice, because it
>> favors candidates deemed more likely to have a chance of receiving a
>> majority of votes cast on a given ballot.
>>  As with other aspects of governance, I think the Libertarian Party
>> should conduct elections the same way we want them to be handled in the
>> larger polity. This means we should *not* be using voting methods which
>> could discourage people from voting for candidates expected to be less
>> popular, out of fear of "wasting their votes" -- a practice which costs the
>> LP and other alternative parties in the United States much support.
>>
>> With this in mind, I urge that we reopen this ballot for secretary *
>> without* the rule that a majority on any given ballot will get a
>> candidate elected.
>>
>> Love & Liberty,
>>                                   ((( starchild )))
>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>                                (415) 625-FREE
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 3:35 PM, James Lark wrote:
>>
>> TO:  Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> FROM:    James W. Lark, III
>>                 Secretary Pro Tem, Libertarian National Committee
>>                 Region 5S Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> SUBJECT:  E-MAIL BALLOT TO SELECT THE SECRETARY OF THE LNC
>>
>> The vote to select the secretary of the Libertarian National Committee
>> will proceed as follows:
>>
>> On each ballot, a member of the Committee will cast a vote for at most
>> one person on the list of candidates, or cast a vote for "None of the
>> Above."  The candidate who receives a majority of the votes cast on a given
>> ballot is selected to serve as secretary.
>>
>> Should no candidate receive a majority of the votes cast on a given
>> ballot, a subsequent ballot will be distributed.  Candidates who received 0
>> votes on the given ballot will not be included on the subsequent ballot.
>>  In addition, of those candidates on the given ballot who received at least
>> 1 vote, the person with the fewest votes will not be included
>> on the subsequent ballot.
>>
>> The voting process will continue until a ballot produces a candidate who
>> receives a majority of the votes cast on that given ballot.
>>
>>
>> Candidates (listed in alphabetical order of surname):
>>
>> Blakey, Robin
>>
>> Blau, David
>>
>> Cooke, Mark
>>
>> Johnson, Gary E.
>> Lester, Bill
>>
>> MacElroy, Bill
>>
>> Mattson, Alicia
>> McDermott, Jim
>> McDowell, Jake
>> Moulton, Chuck
>> Pellegrino, Anthony
>>
>> Reynolds, Robert
>>
>> Roberts, Shadrack
>>
>>
>> SPONSOR:  Geoff Neale (request for ballot submitted to the Secretary at
>> 6:08 p.m. EST on Sunday, January 27, 2013)
>>
>> VOTING PERIOD OPENS:  6:35 p.m. EST, Sunday, January 27, 2013
>>
>> VOTING PERIOD CONCLUDES:  6:35 p.m. EST, Wednesday, February 6, 2013
>>
>>
>> NOTE:  This e-mail ballot is the second ballot that is currently open.
>>  The voting period for a previous e-mail ballot opened at 5:05 p.m. EST on
>> Sunday, January 20; the voting period for this previous e-mail ballot will
>> conclude at 5:05 p.m. EST on Wednesday, January 30.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> INFORMATION CONCERNING E-MAIL BALLOT PROCESS:
>>
>>
>> From the Libertarian Party Bylaws:
>>
>> Article 8, Section 10:
>>
>> The National Committee may, without meeting together, transact business
>> by electronic mail. The Secretary shall send out electronic mail ballots on
>> any question submitted by the Chair or cosponsored by at least 1/5 of the
>> members of the Committee. The period for voting on a question shall remain
>> open for ten days, unless all members have cast votes, or have stated an
>> intention to abstain, by electronic mail to the Secretary. Votes from
>> alternate regional representatives will be counted, in accordance with the
>> ranking procedure of the region, only if the regional representative
>> fails to respond to the ballot.
>>
>> The number of votes required for passage of any motion shall be the same
>> as that required during a meeting. The Secretary shall preserve all such
>> votes until the next meeting of the National Committee, at which meeting
>> the Committee shall order the disposition of such votes.
>>
>>
>> From the LNC Policy Manual:
>>
>> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES
>>
>> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots (endnote 31)
>>
>> Electronic mail ballots shall not include an accompanying argument for or
>> against passage of the motion. Notification of an electronic mail ballot
>> shall be made by the Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change
>> his or her vote on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is
>> received by the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
>>
>>
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