[Lnc-business] A couple things I just noticed

Sun Aug 3 08:43:23 EDT 2014

    I find it interesting that you find that interesting.  What of it?  I don't find any evidence of xenophobia in our statement of principles, Constitution, or bylaws.   Someone being a Libertarian officer and running for a different office under a different party's banner doesn't threaten my rights.  Do you feel threatened by that? Do you feel that your membership in the LNC restricts your freedom to belong to any other groups?  You are free to feel that way about yourself, but please don't try to impose that dogma on me.  The only reason that I am not currently a member of both the LNC and the Central Committee of the Republican Party of Alaska is that they excommunicated me for being in the inner circle of the Ron Paul for President campaign.  I am currently supporting and writing material for both the Libertarian and independent candidates for Governor of Alaska.   A soundbite that I wrote for a previous Libertarian candidate for Governor was used by the Republican who won that year.  Bills that I suggested have been introduced to Congress by libertarian Republican Ron Paul and independent socialist Bernie Saunders.  I am working to promote liberty in every way that I can.

Ron Windeler
rowindeler at aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12 at gmail.com>
To: lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
Sent: Sat, Aug 2, 2014 7:54 am
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] A couple things I just noticed

Ron:
I find it interesting that you see nothing wrong with an active Libertarian who holds offices in the Libertarian Party,
forming his own political party and running for President in competition with our Presidential candidate.
VK

On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Ron Windeler <rowindeler at aol.com> wrote:

I thought libertarians respected a person's freedom of associations.  One year, I was a delegate to the Republican and Libertarian state conventions and an active member of a liberal union's political action committee.  My girlfriend was a radical green tree hugger and whale lover (no, I wasn't obese at the time)  Ron Paul got 1,000 times more votes as a libertarian leaning Republican than as a republican leaning Libertarian. Fealty to party should not be a libertarian concern. I may be endangering my relationship with the National Socialist Free Agrarian Party by saying that.

Ron Windeler
rowindeler at aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12 at gmail.com>
To: lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] A couple things I just noticed

The Presidential candidate of a rival party who simultaneously served on the JC was also simultaneously an elector for
Bob Barr.  Four years later he again was a Presidential candidate for a rival party while serving as Chair of the Libertarian
Party of Pennsylvania.  He was on the ballot in two states, Florida and Colorado.
Vicki Kirkland

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Joshua Katz <joshua.katz at lp.org> wrote:

1.  LNC members are prohibited, for good reason, from running as the candidates of other parties.  JC members clearly are not, as the bylaws don't say they are, and in fact, the Presidential candidate of a rival party was on the JC.  It does seem somewhat odd that as regards fealty to the party, we require more of the LNC than of those who rule on whether our decisions are appropriate or not.

2.  Other than going to war, the most permanent change a President makes is probably Supreme Court appointments.  The first LP President will likely have fewer such nominations to make than average, since justices attempt to retire while their party is in office, and no current justices are Libertarians (or libertarians, for that matter.)  If she were still on the bench, it is possible O'Connor would have been willing to give her seat to a Libertarian, as her general trend, philosophically, was economically conservative and socially liberal..  This was superseded at times by her desire for narrow rulings and to write opinions that command as large a majority as possible.  However, I don't think any current justice would voluntarily retire with a Libertarian in office.

Joshua A. Katz

Region 8 (Region of Badassdom) Alternate
Libertarian National Committee

Chair, Libertarian Party of Connecticut

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