[Lnc-business] LNC business email list

Mon Sep 22 14:59:39 EDT 2014

I took your advice, Dan.

It only took a few seconds a day to extract the messages from my spam, but
for the 3-4 of minutes of invested time to set up the filter, the time
investment will still pay for itself before long.

Anybody else who uses Gmail and wants to tell it not to send AOL/Yahoo
emails from Tim, Sam, Ron, Rob, and Bill (though Bill has recently switched
to Gmail) into your spam, here are the specific directions for how to do it:

1)  Gather a list of the email addresses that you want to automatically
re-route from spam to inbox.

2)  In Gmail, click the icon that looks like a gear, in the upper-right
portion of the screen.

3)  From that drop-down menu, select "Settings".

4)  In the settings screen, find the menu links at the top of the page and
click the "Filters" one.

For each email address you want to re-route:
5) In the bottom-center of that filters screen, click the "Create new
filter" link.

6) There are two steps to the process, with the first being defining which
messages you want to catch, and the second being defining how to handle
those messages.  When prompted with the first form, it wants you to define
the search parameters for which messages to catch.  In the "From" field,
enter one of the email addresses that typically lands in your spam, and
enter nothing in the other fields.  Then click the "Create filter with this
search" link.

7) You'll get the second form, which asks how you want to handle the email
messages from that person.  Check the "Never send it to spam" box.  Then
click the "Create filter" button to finish the process.

You MIGHT be able to list multiple email addresses in the "From" box in the
first step of creating the filter and handle them all with the same rule,
but I didn't experiment with that to see if it worked.  I just created a
separate filter for each email address.

-Alicia

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Alicia, you can also set up a filter in Gmail which will over-ride its
> spam settings, and thus prevent it from routing emails with certain
> characteristics (e.g., from particular senders) to the spam folder.  When I
> receive an email from Tim Hagan or Ron Windeler or Bill Redpath, Gmail
> places a bright yellow banner on top of the email which says "*This
> message was not sent to Spam because of a filter you created."*
>
> Dan Wiener
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Google puts every message I receive from AOL users (Sam and Ron) and from
>> Yahoo users (Tim and Bill) into my spam folder.  I check my spam folder
>> every day, move the not-really-spam back to the inbox and delete the rest
>> to keep it cleared out.  Google thinks they are spam, but at least they
>> deliver the message to me and let me choose what to do with it.
>>
>> Yahoo, however, sometimes refuses to deliver emails from this list.  Both
>> Tim and Bill use Yahoo accounts, and they have both mentioned to me that
>> they don't receive all their messages.  In Tim's case, Yahoo routinely
>> bounces messages sent by our list back to the list, and after so many
>> bounces, the list automatically disables Tim and sends him a message to
>> make him take action to get back onto the list.
>>
>> The spam detection algorithms in some of these large providers is likely
>> the cause.  A quick search finds articles about changes that Yahoo made to
>> it's spam detection earlier this year, so that it doesn't tend to like
>> emails that have the sender identified as being from one domain (the one in
>> your email address), but the message is coming from servers on another
>> domain (the LNC list servers).
>>
>> There may be a way for Yahoo users to do something similar to what Scott
>> sent out (which is for Outlook users, though I think those settings don't
>> come into play until after Yahoo has already decided to refuse to deliver
>> the message), and give specific approval for their Yahoo account to deliver
>> emails coming from this list, but I haven't searched for those directions
>> yet.  If anyone finds such an option, please share it so Bill and Tim can
>> try it.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is not a cure, but it might make the symptoms less severe:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    http://helpspot.business.uconn.edu/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=178
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Scott Lieberman
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I don't send out spam. Honest!
>>>
>>> I don't receiver Sam's e-mails, and they aren't in the Spam folder.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Tim”
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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