[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-13: Increase funding for KY lawsuit

[Nicholas Sarwark]

To respond briefly to Norm's points:

1) Yes, we are still below the reserve requirement, but we are in the
black again, have retired the convention bill, and are rebuilding the
reserves.  The trend is positive.

2) This is incorrect.  There is a particular argument related to
trying to get Mr. Patterson into the debate that was put forward.  As
the debate has happened already, that argument is moot, but it also
gives us leave to amend the claims to pursue monetary damages and
address other constitutional claims that could not be part of the
emergency injunction.

3) Quitting before we finish out all the rounds of the fight can also
set an undesirable precedent.

4) I assure you that they would rather we not continue this particular
fight.  KET looks very bad based on the existing state of the record
and will look much worse as the lawsuit continues.

5) He asked for help with specific information about emails that
showed viewpoint discrimination, making it a viable case.  Not
everyone who asks gets told yes, but nobody who doesn't ask gets told
yes.

6) To be clear, this budget would come from the legal offense fund,
not the general fund and specific fundraising for that purpose will
continue.


-Nick

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Norm Olsen <region1rep at donedad.com> wrote:
> Nay!
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> I understand the emotion for this motion, but we need to go beyond emotion
> and make objective hard choices.
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> 1>     We are still in a bit of a cash flow problem; reserves remain less
> than that required by the Policy Manual.
>
> 2>     Presumably we have already used our best argument and lost.  Throwing
> more money at this is emotionally driven.
>
> 3>     Losing battles of this nature provide undesirable precedent.  Let’s
> accept our loss and get on with building an organization.
>
> 4>     This is fighting the battles the R’s and D’s want us to burn our
> meager resources fighting.  We need to be more selective is choosing the
> battles which we choose to fight.  In so doing, we need to fight battles
> which we can win. It’s winning battles that moves us forward, regardless of
> how minor the “win” is.
>
> 5>     There are candidates in several (most?) states who were excluded from
> debates. I am unaware of how one state/candidate was selected for this
> effort.
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> 6>     If we want to make “getting our candidates in the debates” a strategy
> for future success, then let’s do so formally with a project, a committee,
> publicity, a fund raising effort, etc.  The 2012 proposed project labeled
> “Legal Offense Fund” comes to mind.  If that’s what we objectively decide to
> do, then let’s do it and do it with vigor and do it well.
>
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> Norm
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> Norman T Olsen
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> Regional Representative, Region 1
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> Libertarian National Committee
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> 7931 South Broadway, PMB 102
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> Littleton, CO  80122-271-
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> 303-263-4995
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> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
> Alicia Mattson
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:47 AM
> To: lnc-business
> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-13: Increase funding for KY
> lawsuit
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> We have an electronic mail ballot.
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> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by November 4, 2014 at 11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.
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> Sponsor:  Nick Sarwark
>
> Motion:  Increase the budget for the Kentucky litigation from $9,000 to
> $14,000.
>
> Alicia Mattson
>
> LNC Secretary
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