[Lnc-business] Recent LP Facebook post - Our Continued Social Media Blunders

Nicholas Sarwark chair at lp.org
Sat Feb 28 14:26:18 EST 2015


The Presidential campaign of a sitting Republican Senator has more social
media resources than a previous Libertarian Presidential candidate.  Is
this news?

-Nick

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:

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> I bet an overwhelming majority of those commenting became followers of the
> LP’s Facebook page *before *the Rand Paul meme was posted.  If there is a
> way to find out, I hope the LP’s Facebook team is willing to release the
> number of commenters on that meme who joined before, vs. after, that meme
> was posted.
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> And even if by some miracle the majority of those commenters were not
> followers of the LP’s Facebook page until today,  and they have never
> commented on any other LP Facebook post, it still means that the Rand Paul
> campaign team, a year before the NH Primary, is able to get over 1000 of
> their supporters to comment on a Facebook post on a minor party’s web site
> within 5 hours of its original posting.
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> Just to put that in perspective, the largest number of comments that ANY
> of Governor Gary Johnson’s January Facebook posts have received
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> as of TODAY is 571, and that post has been up for over a month.
> https://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson
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>    Scott Lieberman
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Nicholas Sarwark
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:12 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] [Statechairs] Recent LP Facebook post - Our
> Continued Social Media Blunders
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> The Rand Paul campaign has a social media team and I am directly aware of
> an organized effort by that team to comment on that photo en masse and like
> the comments that are pro-Rand Paul.  This was a strategy adopted by both
> of the elder Paul's Presidential campaign and it has been embraced by the
> younger one.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler%27s_veto
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> -Nick
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> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> I won’t pretend that this is a statistically valid poll, but here are some
> comments attached to that Facebook post.
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> I just took the first 8 comments - that was my only selection criteria.
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> If you don’t believe me, look for yourself -
> https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
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> You have to click the comment link under that post, and then “view more
> comments”  to see all of the comments.
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>   Scott Lieberman
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> · Jordan Jones <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=38710967&fref=ufi>
>   How dumb do you have to be to include Paul with Clinton and Bush? This
> page has gotten childish
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> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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> ·   <https://www.facebook.com/robert.bennett.507?fref=ufi>
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> ·  Robert Bennett <https://www.facebook.com/robert.bennett.507?fref=ufi>
>   What? When did the LP become anti-Paul? I guess I missed the four to
> eight years Ron won.
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> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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>    <https://www.facebook.com/piero?fref=ufi>
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> ·  Piero Marinucci <https://www.facebook.com/piero?fref=ufi>   This page
> is anti Ron Paul? Are you out of your Vulcan minds?
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>    <https://www.facebook.com/april.kluge?fref=ufi>
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> ·  April Tanner Kluge <https://www.facebook.com/april.kluge?fref=ufi>
>   Rand Paul has his roots in the Libertarian party.... I will drop this
> page before I drop him!
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> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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> ·  Anthony Hayden <https://www.facebook.com/Mr.Hayden?fref=ufi>   Wow you
> lumped Paul in there. Never mind the fact that there has never been a Paul
> president. This is just idiotic. Also just because he didn't buy a pot farm
> like Gary Johnson (who I do like) does not mean he isn't libertarian at his
> core.
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> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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>    <https://www.facebook.com/mj.fairfield?fref=ufi>
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> ·  MJ Fairfield <https://www.facebook.com/mj.fairfield?fref=ufi>   Paul
> would be great.
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> <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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>    <https://www.facebook.com/jordan.hudson.562?fref=ufi>
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> ·  Jordan Hudson <https://www.facebook.com/jordan.hudson.562?fref=ufi>
>   Well LP just lost there spot on my feed
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> Eric Brakey <https://www.facebook.com/ebrakey?fref=ufi>  What are you?
> Stupid or something? No one would even know about the Libertarian Party if
> it were not for Ron and Rand Paul. In fact, childish antics like
> these---alienating the very liberty-minded people you need to grow your
> party---are the reason ...See More <https://www.facebook.com/libertarians>
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Scott L.
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:34 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org
> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] FW: [Statechairs] Recent LP Facebook post -
> OurContinued Social Media Blunders
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> LNC Policy Manual
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> Article 2, Section 2.06, part 5,  number 5
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> “5) Assuring Quality Communications
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> If a majority of all LNC members notify the Secretary of their belief that
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> actual public communication is detrimental to the image of the Party, such
> notification to
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> occur no later than 72 hours after the public communication is published,
> the Secretary
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> shall inform the Executive Director and Chair of this finding, and such
> communication
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> shall not be further disseminated, and to the extent possible,
> already-disseminated material
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> shall be promptly removed from the public sphere.”
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> Unfortunately, neither Mr. Hayes nor myself can “vote” on this matter.
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> However, for those of you who are Officers or Representatives – if you
> think that the disadvantages of this post outweigh its advantages, please
> e-mail
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> Ms. Mattson that you want this Facebook post removed from the Internet as
> per the above Policy Manual provision.
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>   Scott Lieberman
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> *From:* Statechairs [mailto:statechairs-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Hayes
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 28, 2015 8:28 AM
> *To:* State Chairs Group
> *Subject:* [Statechairs] Recent LP Facebook post.- Our Continued Social
> MediaBlunders
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> Members,
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> So I have as of this morning already gotten at least 2 complaints about
> what I understand is a recent post on the National LP Facebook page .
> While I  absolutely do not support Rand..and I think the Paul’s staff is
> less desirable than a rock sandwich, Ron Paul has done a lot to promote
> libertarianism. Many of us would not be here if it were not for him. To
> equate, the Paul’s with the Clinton’s and Bush’s is misguided at best.  One
> of the people that complained is from my own local executive committee and
> he had planned to become a national dues paying member and has specifically
> stated he will not be doing so now. In fact that was what he specifically
> contacted me this morning to say because of this. It’s the bad judgement
> calls that people controlling our social media continue to make that is
> significantly hampering our ability to recruit. And at the very least it
> cost us $25…but I have a feeling it cost us a lot more than that.   I am
> sure there are some that maybe like this..but this is such a clear net
> loser for us…I just have to scratch my head at what people were thinking. I
> have the original “picture” and also a picture one of the people that
> complained to me posted. We just can’t get out of our own way..I realize
> someone will alway be unhappy, but there are some things that just are so
> clearly bad, but we did them anyway.
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> Daniel Hayes
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> LNC Region 7 Alternate Representative
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> One of the people that was complaining made this and posted it:
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