[Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting

Sam Goldstein goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com
Wed Dec 30 13:38:34 EST 2015


Kevin,

Thanks for setting up the survey.  Should have been done a month ago.

Sam Goldstein

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the update, Mr. Chair.
>
> If the democratic process is of any value, here is an online poll.  It
> takes about 4 seconds.  It seems it would just be easy to give staff a
> definitive answer.  I don't know of an easier way.
>
> Please include your name in the comment section.
>
>
> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/ziybzf/with-all-of-the-information-you-now-have-which-city-should-the-february-lnc-mee
>
> Thank you.
> Kevin Ludlow
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mr. Ludlow:
>>
>>
>>
>> I feel your pain.
>>
>>
>>
>> Helms-Briscoe is currently getting bids for our February LNC Session from
>> most or all of the hotels that are on the short list for our 2018
>> Convention site.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it was the ED who wrote us that it is difficult to get bids from
>> hotels this week due to most normal people
>>
>> having this week off  (Note –  I have to work this week, so I am clearly
>> not normal).
>>
>>
>>
>> I suggest we give staff until Thursday, January 7, 2016  to collect the
>> bids that Helms-Briscoe is able to solicit.  If we have no decent bids on
>> that date, then I suggest that we do what Mr. Ludlow suggests below.
>>
>>
>>    Scott Lieberman
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Kevin Ludlow
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:11 PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> LNC Members:
>>
>> I really dislike being that guy who sends multiple emails to a list-serve
>> when most others are remaining silent.  I also recognize that I sometimes
>> vocalize a strong tone, but I'm trying really hard to patiently understand
>> what we're doing here.  I was very present in Orlando and am pretty sure
>> I have not missed a single word of email.
>>
>> That being said, this specific email thread was started over two weeks
>> ago.  It was started by Mr. Goldstein as a way to expedite what he (and no
>> doubt several others) felt should have already been locked down.  I realize
>> the holidays have been upon us, but are we really to believe that each of
>> us cannot send 30-second-long emails from the convenience of his or her
>> front pocket?
>>
>> We need to select a location; we need to book hotels; we need to book
>> flights.
>>
>> What specifically is needed from this board in order to have a decision
>> made THIS week?  I would be happy to setup a Doodle Poll (as I believe Mr.
>> Katz suggested at the Orlando meeting).  I would be happy if staff
>> simply asked the body - again - what their choice of the four locations was
>> via email.  Either way, if this is to be democratic (which I don't feel it
>> needs to be) then I would advocate giving members until December 30th,
>> 11:59pm EST to submit their response and not a second later.
>>
>> I really don't care how it's done, but surely we are capable of
>> accomplishing this very simple and discrete task.
>>
>> If this has already been done and I've just missed the conversation
>> entirely then please paint me a fool and accept my most sincere apologies.
>> I'll buy every one of you a beer for my mistake.  But if not, can we please
>> lock this down immediately?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Kevin Ludlow
>>
>> Region 7 Rep
>> 512-773-3968
>>
>>
>>
>> HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Guy McLendon <guy at mclendon.net> wrote:
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>> I strongly prefer New Orleans over Phoenix …
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Tim Hagan
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:48 PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm fine with any of those locations, including Seattle although I will
>> be there next month for a memorial.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:02 PM
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> The LNC would not be petitioning. I'm expecting to have enough signature
>> before then. Some LNC might help with a publicity event on Friday or Monday
>> if the signatures are ready to turn in. Other press opportunities might
>> exist.
>>
>> I'm fine meeting anywhere.
>>
>> My usual first place choices for every meeting are New Orleans (close to
>> my parents & great food), Las Vegas (fun), or DC (I don't have to pack).
>> I was very pleasantly surprised with how nice Phoenix was last March.
>> Loved the hotel. So, if you are worried that I'm pushing too hard for OKC,
>> it's for the great prices and new LP activity there, not for me personally,
>> although I have many relatives in Oklahoma.
>>
>> I was previously pushing to combine it with training in San Francisco or
>> L.A., but could not get consensus. I'd be fine with Washington state,
>> personally, but it seems like a long long way to fly for most people.
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 12/23/2015 3:45 PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>>
>> Regarding OKC, is there an actual expectation that the LNC would be out
>> petitioning instead of meeting?  Did I just misunderstand that or possibly
>> read into it incorrectly?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My quick checks show New Orleans, OKC, and Phoenix all have reasonably
>> good airfares for February 19-21.
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>
>> On 12/23/2015 3:37 PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>>
>> I would advocate Phoenix over New Orleans.
>>
>> * PHX is easy and generally cheap to fly into
>> * Phoenix itself is easy to get around
>> * Car rentals tend to be super cheap in Phoenix
>> * The city is specifically setup for business conferences
>> * We have two potential sites to visit there
>>
>> * While it's not entirely west coast, it does address that imbalance to
>> other members (a little at least)
>>
>> -Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sam, what about New Orleans or Phoenix?
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 12/23/2015 3:30 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>
>> I don't want a LNC meeting at OKC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Goldstein
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Robert found a couple of properties in OKC with rooms at around the
>> $80/night level, free breakfast, and the meeting space is free or just a
>> couple hundred dollars or so. That would be the least expensive LNC meeting
>> in a long time. We could sign a deal right away if you'd like.
>>
>> Helms Briscoe says they don't expect proposals the week of Christmas. So,
>> we can wait to see what comes up with Helms Briscoe later, and compare
>> those to the OKC options, or go with OKC now.
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 12/19/2015 9:59 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>
>> Nick asked staff to do the same so Robert also contacted helms Briscoe
>> Friday.
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Since we don't yet have a plan for a February meeting location, I just
>> emailed our 2018 site search agent asking her to find out if any of the
>> short-list options might have available space for the Feb 20 weekend.
>> (Cities are:  Atlantic City, NJ; New Orleans, LA; Phoenix, AZ; Bellevue,
>> WA)  I indicated that time is of the essence, so they should send us
>> their offers quickly if they're available.
>>
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Guy McLendon <guy at mclendon.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'd go for OK City ...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
>> Wes
>> Benedict
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:42 PM
>> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>
>> Sam, at least as of a week ago I don't think staff has been asked to
>>
>> research any locations. Copying Robert to verify. I proposed San Francisco
>>
>> recently but got zero interest from the LNC.
>>
>>
>> I found a great place in Oklahoma City for $79 per night if you all are
>>
>> interested. Best Western Saddleback. Nice meeting space and free breakfast.
>>
>> Southwest Airlines doesn't charge change fees if you need to change your
>>
>> flight. I flew into the ice storm Saturday after Thanksgiving and the people
>>
>> there didn't seem to panic even with downed power lines and trees
>>
>> everywhere. Was nice to be able to change flight just in case though
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 14, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> > The date we set for our next meeting is rapidly approaching and we
>>
>> > have not yet selected a location.  Can we please get a report from
>>
>> > staff as to which locations we are considering?  I, for one, would
>>
>> > like to get this wrapped up in the next week so travel plans can be made.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Live Free,
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Sam Goldstein
>>
>>
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