[Lnc-business] Professional Photographer at LNC Meeting

Tue Mar 24 13:09:26 EDT 2015

I am personally going to decline the photograph, to save the $100.  I would
otherwise contribute the $100 to defray the cost, but I had the attached
picture taken three years ago by a professional photographer for my
company's business, and I think that's adequate.  (This is the picture
that's currently on the LP web site, and unfortunately that's as good as it
gets for me, which is why I still claim the unphotogenic title.)

Dan Wiener

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Wes Benedict <Wes.Benedict at lp.org> wrote:

>  It sounds easy to ask people to just go out and get a professional photo
> made. But the reality is, not many people will actually get around to it.
> I've been meaning to get an updated photo for myself for about 5 years.
> Two former Chairs never seemed to get around to it. I'm glad Nick is going
> to make it happen.
>
> People are often already dressed up for LNC meetings and the photographer
> will be right there, so 20 people don't have to individually find a
> photographer, schedule a session, get dressed just for that reason, drive
> to a location, take the trouble to email me the photos, etc.
>
> I think this is a good efficient use of funds. But, I'm guessing maybe 15
> people will take us up on the offer, and probably 8 to 10 will contribute
> $100 or more to cover the costs. So I'm estimating we're probably looking
> at more like $500 to $700 total cost to the LNC.  We'll see.
>
> I'll contribute $100 at https://www.lp.org/contribute to defray the cost
> for my photo, and I'll contribute $100 also, if Robert Kraus also gets a
> photo made, after we receive the photos.
>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
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> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
>  Nicholas Sarwark wrote on 3/24/2015 11:12 AM:
>
> Dear Dr. Lieberman,
>
> I'm not going to make anyone sit for a photo they don't want.  If you
> decide to reconsider, the photographer will be there and setup to take
> photos for everyone who will sit for him.  I would like to have
> everyone present take advantage of that opportunity.
>
> I have been told by our Political Director that I need more and better
> photos to go out with media releases.  I've also been told by
> convention planners for states I've been invited to speak to that they
> would like more and better photos for their promotional materials.
> For these reasons, I was planning to retain Mr. Uilkie.
>
> In consultation with Mr. Benedict, he suggested that I try to
> negotiate a reduced rate to get more and better photographs for the
> rest of the LNC.  I did, and the final cost will be less than $100 per
> person.  The end result is that our committee will have better looking
> photographs on our soon-to-be redesigned website with out soon-to-be
> redesigned logo.  The committee will have high-quality photos that
> they can use for their next run for Federal, state, or local office.
> The committee will have high-quality photos that they can send to
> organizers of events and conventions that they go out to speak to.
>
> I am as careful with donor funds as I am with my own. I have decided
> that it makes sense to spend less than $100 per LNC member who spends
> thousands of dollars of their own money multiple times per year to
> travel to attend to the party's business to improve the image our
> party shows to the public.
>
> I'm happy if members of the LNC wish to donate to the party to defray
> some of that cost; board fundraising is below target so far for the
> year anyway. I'm happy if some of our sustaining members wish to
> donate to the party to defray some of that cost; we represent them.
>
> The LNC is well within its prerogative to override my decision on this
> issue (as on many other things), but if you do so I will still use my
> Chair's discretionary funds to pay for this because I think it's good
> for the LNC and the Libertarian Party.
>
> I hope you will reconsider,
>
> Nick
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>  As you all know, the National LP is not exactly flush with cash right now.
>
>
>
> As I wrote earlier, having high-quality photographs "for the media", and for
> the LP web site, is not a bad thing.  However, I don't think it is a good
> idea at this time to spend what could be over $2000 of our donor's money on
> a project that is clearly very optional.
>
>
>
> As a substitute, I propose the following:
>
>
>
>
>
>     1.  Those LNC members who wish to take advantage of Mr. Sarwark's offer
> must donate $100 to the National LP to pay for the photos.  I hope that
> method is FEC compliant.
>
>
>
>                                     OR
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>
>
>     2. If you are not satisfied with the quality of your photo at
>
>
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>                http://www.lp.org/lnc-leadership
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>
>
>         You can go to a provider of Passport photos near your home and get a
> digital Passport photo.  These will probably not be professional quality,
> but they should suffice for the LP web site.  With just minimal Google
> searching, I found a local store that will do them for $10.
>
>
>
>
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>                                     OR
>
>
>
> 3.      You can have a family member or friend take a photo of you, after
> reading these tips:
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>
>
> http://www.sitepoint.com/faking-pro-portraits-phone-camera/
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> I understand that spending $2000 is not going to throw the National LP into
> bankruptcy.  However, since our current reserve is below the reserve
> requirement, I don't think it sends the right message to our members to
> spend National LP funds on this particular project at this time.
>
>
>
>
>
> For the above reasons, I decline to have the professional photographer take
> a photograph of me at the LNC Session in Phoenix.
>
>
>
>    Scott Lieberman
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] On Behalf Of
> Nicholas Sarwark
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:12 AM
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Professional Photographer at LNC Meeting
>
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> LNC funds, approximate cost is $100 per person, the photographer will
>
> waive his normal $200 setup fee.
>
>
>
> -Nick
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>  On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>       If the photographer is not donating his or her services, who is paying for
>
>   these photographs of LNC members?  How much will these photos cost per
>
>   person?
>
>         Obviously SOMEONE has to be paying for them, one way or another.
>
>     Please don’t assume I am against this project.  Having high quality photos
>
>   of LNC members is a good idea.
>
>     But since LNC members will receive a copy of the photo, I want to make
> sure
>
>   the financial arrangements are transparent to our members.
>
>
>     Scott Lieberman
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>    "I'm planning on having a professional photographer do some headshots
>
>     and other high-quality images for the media.  He's based in Phoenix
>
>     and would be able to also do headshots for each member of the LNC in
>
>     attendence at this weekend's meeting in Phoenix.  The images would be
>
>     provided to each member on DVD and also available to update our
>
>     website.
>
>       I'm thinking Saturday morning would be best, but if people have a
>
>     different preference, please let me know.
>
>       I wanted to give you the heads up so you can pack appropriately for
>
>     how you'd like to appear in photographs.
>
>         Nick"
>
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