[Lnc-business] Fall/Winter meeting dates and location

James Lark jwl3s at virginia.edu
Tue Jun 16 15:39:37 EDT 2015


Dear colleagues:

     I hope all is well with you.  Ms. Kirkland's message below suggests 
that I may not have explained well the second comment offered in my 
previous message.  Allow me to clarify the point I sought to make.

     I have been aware since speaking to Ms. Kirkland several days ago 
that the Rosen Centre is offering a room rate of $95.00 per night for 
the Nov. 14-15 meeting date.  Mr. Sarwark's message indicated that after 
the Nov. 28-29 weekend, the hotel will be in holiday season; as a 
result, room rates will increase.  Thus, I was surprised to observe that 
the room rate quoted for Nov. 14-15 (before the holiday season begins) 
is higher than the rate for Dec. 12-13 (after the holiday season begins).

     The fact that the website rate quoted for Nov. 14-15 is higher than 
that for Dec. 12-13 doesn't necessarily imply anything about the rates 
we shall be offered for a Dec. 12-13 meeting vis-a-vis the 
aforementioned $95.00 rate.  However, it suggests to me that before 
considering a motion in this matter, we should inquire whether the hotel 
will make us a similar offer ($95.00 or thereabouts) for a December 
meeting.

      Unless the Rosen Centre doesn't have the necessary guest rooms or 
meeting space for Dec. 12-13, I would be very surprised if the hotel is 
unwilling to make us a similar offer for that date, especially given 
that we are holding our national convention there next year.  I don't 
believe the hotel will consider it impertinent of us to request formally 
a $95.00 rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting.

     Allow me to emphasize that I don't want to put anyone to great 
trouble and/or expense so that I can address libertarian student 
conferences in Europe.  If the LNC chooses the Nov. 14-15 meeting date 
after careful consideration of the situation, so be it. However, before 
we make the choice, let us ensure that we have investigated the matter 
fully.

     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.  Again, I hope my 
comments are helpful to you.

     Take care,
     Jim

     James W. Lark, III
     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
     University of Virginia

     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
-----

On 6/16/2015 1:10 PM, Vicki Kirkland wrote:
> We had the budget meeting in mid November in 2012, so it's not unheard 
> of to
> have it in November.
> The rate they can give us for the weekend of November 14/15 is 95 
> dollars per night.
> Vicki Kirkland
> Region 2 Rep
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:56 PM, James Lark <jwl3s at virginia.edu 
> <mailto:jwl3s at virginia.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Dear colleagues:
>
>         I hope all is well with you.  I greatly appreciate Mr. Sarwark
>     soliciting feedback concerning this matter before submitting a
>     motion for our consideration.  Allow me to share with you some
>     comments about this matter; I hope you find them helpful.
>
>     1)  The weekend of Nov. 14-15 is very bad for me, as I have been
>     invited to deliver an address to the European Students For Liberty
>     conference in Copenhagen, Denmark on Nov. 14. In addition, since
>     we shall consider the 2016 budget during this meeting, I believe
>     it would be better for us to hold the meeting on Dec. 12-13 (or if
>     necessary Dec. 5-6), as we would have more information at our
>     disposal in preparing the budget.
>
>         As a related point, the Executive Committee is responsible for
>     preparing the draft budget for consideration in advance of the LNC
>     meeting.  Holding our fall meeting on Nov. 14-15 would likely
>     require the EC to prepare the draft budget in later October.  At
>     least two EC members (Bill Redpath and I) will be very busy in
>     October, as elections for the Virginia General Assembly take place
>     in November. (Mr. Redpath and I serve as chair and vice chair,
>     respectively, of the Libertarian Party of Virginia.)
>
>     2)  A few minutes ago I visited the Rosen Centre website to check
>     on room rates for Nov. 13-15 and for Dec. 11-13.  I was surprised
>     to observe that the rate for a "deluxe double room" was $194.00
>     for both Nov. 13 and Nov. 14, whereas the rate for the same room
>     on Dec. 11 and Dec. 12 was $173.00.
>
>         While the fact that rates on the website for a Nov. 14-15
>     meeting are higher than rates for a Dec. 12-13 meeting doesn't
>     imply the Rosen Centre will give us the same room rates for the
>     two meeting dates, it suggests to me that we should make
>     additional inquiries concerning rates for a Dec. 12-13 meeting
>     (and a Dec. 5-6 meeting) before any motion is considered. 
>     Frankly, I would be very surprised if the Rosen Centre is
>     unwilling to give us the same rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting as
>     long as rooms and meeting space are available.
>
>     3)  I believe there is an additional benefit to holding the LNC
>     meeting on Dec. 12-13 that we should consider. Specifically, the
>     anniversary of the founding of the LP takes place on Dec. 11.
>     Perhaps we could hold a Libertarian Party celebration/fundraiser
>     on the evening of Friday, Dec. 11 at the hotel.  Indeed, assuming
>     that there are no FEC (or State of Florida) problems, we may be
>     able to conduct a joint LP/LP Florida/LP local Orlando
>     organization celebration that evening.  In any event, we may be
>     able to organize some type of celebration at the hotel that
>     provides an additional incentive for the hotel to give us a
>     favorable rate for a Dec. 12-13 meeting.
>
>         As always, thanks for your work for liberty; as always, thanks
>     for considering my comments.  I look forward to seeing you next month.
>
>         Take care,
>         Jim
>
>         James W. Lark, III
>         Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>         University of Virginia
>
>         Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>     -----
>
>
>     On 6/16/2015 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark wrote:
>
>         All,
>
>         Vicki Kirkland has been in contact with the Rosen Centre, the
>         site of
>         our May 2016 convention, about the possibility of having an LNC
>         meeting there in advance of the convention.  This would allow
>         the many
>         members of the committee (myself included) who have not been
>         to the
>         venue to see it prior to this coming May.
>
>         In her discussions with the hotel, they have offered a
>         $95/night room
>         rate for the weekend of November 14-15, but indicated that the
>         only
>         weekends they could make that rate available would be that one
>         and the
>         weekend immediately following Thanksgiving (November 28-29). 
>         After
>         that point, the hotel is in holiday season and the rates go up.
>
>         Before we have a mail ballot on the issue, I'd like to put it
>         out to
>         the list for a discussion of the pros and cons of the proposed
>         date
>         and venue versus any alternatives.
>
>         -Nick
>
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