[Lnc-business] Proposed agenda - 7/18=7/19

[Joshua Katz]

Of course, I agree with Mr. Bittner that we should not extent our meeting
for the heck of it.  But, again, we do have things to discuss.  I suggested
some additional agenda items, but these would need sponsorship, I believe,
of a full member to make it onto the agenda.  To reiterate - what message
does it send when an organization has the numbers shown in our monthly
reports, and cannot think of additional items for its quarterly meeting
beyond reports, logo, and general counsel?  There are hard and serious
questions that need answers, and will not get them in a meeting with only
those items.

I will join in Mr. Bittner's statement that we need to reevaluate our goals
and assess our progress on them - some cannot be measured yet, but we can
ask what actions we are taking towards them, and whether current efforts
appear likely to achieve them when that time comes.  I'd add that we need
to further ask if they need to be adjusted in light of our current
circumstances, and that we need to ask questions like the ones I
suggested.  We also need to answer them.

Joshua Katz

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Brett Bittner <brett at brettbittner.com>
wrote:

> All,
>
> I've watched the conversation with regard to the upcoming meeting, its
> length, and its agenda unfold on this list, as well as the "off list"
> (LPconfer) conversations by the Representative and Alternate from Region 1.
> Don't worry, Norm and Ron... I'll maintain the confidentiality of those
> messages' content.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, we voted to meet in Alexandria July 18-19. The agenda
> proposed by Chairman Sarwark is one that does not contain a substantial
> amount of action on our part. Do we really have action items that
> necessitate the additional meeting day? If not, why not? Every member of
> this body has the ability to propose agenda items for inclusion, and, to my
> knowledge, Chairman Sarwark has not denied the addition of any agenda
> items. So, with whom does the blame lie?
>
> I would prefer that we not have marathon sessions that only end due to a
> lack of quorum, rather than completing what we set out to do. Should we
> simply expect the Chair to fill an additional three hours with agenda items
> that are without substance to fill some allotment of hours to meet the
> travel plans made by the members of the committee? Perhaps we should meet
> Representative Goldstein's request (yes, I know that it was a joke, Sam)
> that we sing Kumbaya in the basement of LPHQ Sunday.
>
> Thus far this term, we have been consistent in meeting in a manner that we
> adjourn the session prior to noon local time on Sunday of the session.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see some discussion of our progress toward the
> goals we set last year in the September session in Alexandria.
>
> Remember the six things we decided as a body were the most important
> indicators of our success or failure as a committee? I see fewer
> conversations here that indicate our commitment to reaching those than I do
> bickering about how long an agenda is or what we should be posting on
> Facebook.
>
> As we seem to want to use this list to share our personal stories with
> regard to travel and preferences with regard to the upcoming session, I
> welcome having the surprise "free time" in the DC area on Sunday, so that I
> can see some of the sights and meet with some of my friends and
> acquaintances in the area that I might not otherwise be able to. I
> anticipated leaving Monday to accomplish some of that, but now I'll be able
> to make a few more visits and use the time on Monday to do some networking
> for my day job.
>
> To sum up, I'm fine with just meeting Saturday OR meeting both days, but I
> don't want to waste time on "filler" just to extend the length of the
> session. I hope to see several substantive agenda items added by those
> complaining that will actually move us closer to meeting the goals we set
> at the beginning of our term to roll us into the "experiment" of meeting at
> LPHQ on Sunday.
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
> brett at brettbittner.com
> 404.492.6524
>
> "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much
> liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <nsarwark at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Attached is a rough agenda in Word and PDF form.  As I believe I've
>> already mentioned, I'm only contemplating the Saturday-only meeting option
>> at the request of some LNC members.  The agenda attached could be applied
>> over Saturday and Sunday combined.
>>
>>
>>  Please let me know what you would like me to do.  Based on current
>> feedback, we'll try to star at 9:00 am and finish by 5:00 pm.
>>
>> -Nick
>>
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