[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2015-10: EPCC and Contract Review

[Daniel Wiener]

I don't see the issue as being a matter of trust, but rather a matter of
due diligence by members of the LNC.  That's part of our job.

Dan Wiener

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:24 AM, <doug at vikingmetals.com> wrote:

> I vote no..
> at some point we have to trust the people  we put in charge..
> Doug Craig
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2015-10: EPCC and Contract Review
> From: Marc Allan Feldman <marc at openivo.com>
> Date: Oct 22, 2015 10:25 AM
> To: "lnc-business at hq.lp.org lnc lnc lnc" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> CC:
>
> There are certain decisions that should be made by the Chair, and the
> Chair should be kept accountable and held responsible for those
> decisions.
> The EPCC should appropraiately offer wise counsel to assist the Chair.
> The Chair should appropriately seek wise counsel from the EPCC, and
> from other members of the LNC.
> If the individuals involved have difficulty in communication and
> negotiation on a voluntary basis, this is not a problem that a change
> in a policy manual will correct, or even improve.
>
> I vote no.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
> > This proposal will make the process of negotiating director-level
> > contracts longer and more difficult.
> >
> > There is a static waiting period of at least ten days from the
> > agreement between the Chair and the prospective employee and the
> > ratification of that agreement by the EPCC or at least 9 LNC members.
> > Members of the EPCC and the LNC who do not negotiate contracts or
> > conduct interviews are provided substantially more power to block a
> > contract negotiated by the Chair and a prospective employee.  Blocking
> > a contract based on provisions that are disapproved of is an easy way
> > to stop a hire without having the votes to actually say no to the
> > person.
> >
> > A key to any negotiation is to negotiate with the decision maker.  The
> > decision maker on the employee side of a contract negotiation is
> > always the employee.  This proposal makes the decision maker on the
> > employer side the Chair, the EPCC, and any plurality of LNC members
> > that would prevent a 9-person vote, along with a 10-day waiting
> > period.  There are some candidates for employment who may not be
> > willing to negotiate on those terms.  If this is adopted, we won't
> > know who they are, because they won't submit themselves as candidates.
> >
> > We already pay our top staff less than other organizations in the
> > libertarian movement as well as subject them to more criticism and
> > attacks than other organizations in the libertarian movement.  Adding
> > a hiring process by multiple committees into that mix will not be
> > helpful to attracting and retaining the best people.
> >
> > If you would like to make it easier for the LNC to block particular
> > director-level hires or particular contracts, and you think that that
> > change would make the Libertarian Party more effective, you should
> > vote for this proposal.
> >
> > I vote no.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> We have an electronic mail ballot.
> >>
> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2015 at 11:59:59pm
> >> Pacific time.
> >>
> >> Sponsor:  Mattson, Kirkland, Goldstein, Riemers
> >>
> >> Motion:  amend the Policy Manual by inserting and striking out text as
> >> specified in the attached PDF
> >>
> >> Alicia Mattson
> >> LNC Secretary
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Lnc-business mailing list
> >> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Lnc-business mailing list
> > Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
>
> --
> Marc Allan Feldman
> CEO
> OpenIVO, Inc.
> Beachwood, OH
> marc at openivo.com
> http://about.me/marcallanfeldman
> 216-312-4169 (direct)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>



-- 
*"In general, we look for a new law by the following process. First, we
guess it (audience laughter), no, don’t laugh, that’s the truth. Then we
compute the consequences of the guess, to see what, if this is right, if
this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply and then we compare
the computation results to nature or we say compare to experiment or
experience, compare it directly with observations to see if it works. If it
disagrees with experiment, it’s WRONG. In that simple statement is the key
to science. It doesn’t make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it
doesn’t matter how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is.
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”*
-- Richard Feynman (https://tinyurl.com/lozjjps)
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/attachments/20151022/f8dfafe2/attachment-0002.html>