[Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting

Wed Dec 30 13:41:19 EST 2015

You're welcome.  I hope everyone will participate in it.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for setting up the survey.  Should have been done a month ago.
>
> Sam Goldstein
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the update, Mr. Chair.
>>
>> If the democratic process is of any value, here is an online poll.  It
>> takes about 4 seconds.  It seems it would just be easy to give staff a
>> definitive answer.  I don't know of an easier way.
>>
>> Please include your name in the comment section.
>>
>>
>> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/ziybzf/with-all-of-the-information-you-now-have-which-city-should-the-february-lnc-mee
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Kevin Ludlow
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Scott L. <scott73 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mr. Ludlow:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I feel your pain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Helms-Briscoe is currently getting bids for our February LNC Session
>>> from most or all of the hotels that are on the short list for our 2018
>>> Convention site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it was the ED who wrote us that it is difficult to get bids from
>>> hotels this week due to most normal people
>>>
>>> having this week off  (Note –  I have to work this week, so I am clearly
>>> not normal).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I suggest we give staff until Thursday, January 7, 2016  to collect the
>>> bids that Helms-Briscoe is able to solicit.  If we have no decent bids on
>>> that date, then I suggest that we do what Mr. Ludlow suggests below.
>>>
>>>
>>>    Scott Lieberman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Kevin Ludlow
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:11 PM
>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LNC Members:
>>>
>>> I really dislike being that guy who sends multiple emails to a
>>> list-serve when most others are remaining silent.  I also recognize that I
>>> sometimes vocalize a strong tone, but I'm trying really hard to patiently
>>> understand what we're doing here.  I was very present in Orlando and am
>>> pretty sure I have not missed a single word of email.
>>>
>>> That being said, this specific email thread was started over two weeks
>>> ago.  It was started by Mr. Goldstein as a way to expedite what he (and no
>>> doubt several others) felt should have already been locked down.  I realize
>>> the holidays have been upon us, but are we really to believe that each of
>>> us cannot send 30-second-long emails from the convenience of his or her
>>> front pocket?
>>>
>>> We need to select a location; we need to book hotels; we need to book
>>> flights.
>>>
>>> What specifically is needed from this board in order to have a decision
>>> made THIS week?  I would be happy to setup a Doodle Poll (as I believe Mr.
>>> Katz suggested at the Orlando meeting).  I would be happy if staff
>>> simply asked the body - again - what their choice of the four locations was
>>> via email.  Either way, if this is to be democratic (which I don't feel it
>>> needs to be) then I would advocate giving members until December 30th,
>>> 11:59pm EST to submit their response and not a second later.
>>>
>>> I really don't care how it's done, but surely we are capable of
>>> accomplishing this very simple and discrete task.
>>>
>>> If this has already been done and I've just missed the conversation
>>> entirely then please paint me a fool and accept my most sincere apologies.
>>> I'll buy every one of you a beer for my mistake.  But if not, can we please
>>> lock this down immediately?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Kevin Ludlow
>>>
>>> Region 7 Rep
>>> 512-773-3968
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Guy McLendon <guy at mclendon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I strongly prefer New Orleans over Phoenix …
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Tim Hagan
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:48 PM
>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm fine with any of those locations, including Seattle although I will
>>> be there next month for a memorial.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:02 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The LNC would not be petitioning. I'm expecting to have enough signature
>>> before then. Some LNC might help with a publicity event on Friday or Monday
>>> if the signatures are ready to turn in. Other press opportunities might
>>> exist.
>>>
>>> I'm fine meeting anywhere.
>>>
>>> My usual first place choices for every meeting are New Orleans (close
>>> to my parents & great food), Las Vegas (fun), or DC (I don't have to
>>> pack). I was very pleasantly surprised with how nice Phoenix was last
>>> March. Loved the hotel. So, if you are worried that I'm pushing too hard
>>> for OKC, it's for the great prices and new LP activity there, not for me
>>> personally, although I have many relatives in Oklahoma.
>>>
>>> I was previously pushing to combine it with training in San Francisco
>>> or L.A., but could not get consensus. I'd be fine with Washington
>>> state, personally, but it seems like a long long way to fly for most
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> On 12/23/2015 3:45 PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding OKC, is there an actual expectation that the LNC would be out
>>> petitioning instead of meeting?  Did I just misunderstand that or possibly
>>> read into it incorrectly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My quick checks show New Orleans, OKC, and Phoenix all have reasonably
>>> good airfares for February 19-21.
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>
>>> On 12/23/2015 3:37 PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>>>
>>> I would advocate Phoenix over New Orleans.
>>>
>>> * PHX is easy and generally cheap to fly into
>>> * Phoenix itself is easy to get around
>>> * Car rentals tend to be super cheap in Phoenix
>>> * The city is specifically setup for business conferences
>>> * We have two potential sites to visit there
>>>
>>> * While it's not entirely west coast, it does address that imbalance to
>>> other members (a little at least)
>>>
>>> -Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sam, what about New Orleans or Phoenix?
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> On 12/23/2015 3:30 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't want a LNC meeting at OKC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert found a couple of properties in OKC with rooms at around the
>>> $80/night level, free breakfast, and the meeting space is free or just a
>>> couple hundred dollars or so. That would be the least expensive LNC meeting
>>> in a long time. We could sign a deal right away if you'd like.
>>>
>>> Helms Briscoe says they don't expect proposals the week of Christmas.
>>> So, we can wait to see what comes up with Helms Briscoe later, and compare
>>> those to the OKC options, or go with OKC now.
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2015 9:59 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>
>>> Nick asked staff to do the same so Robert also contacted helms Briscoe
>>> Friday.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Since we don't yet have a plan for a February meeting location, I just
>>> emailed our 2018 site search agent asking her to find out if any of the
>>> short-list options might have available space for the Feb 20 weekend.
>>> (Cities are:  Atlantic City, NJ; New Orleans, LA; Phoenix, AZ; Bellevue,
>>> WA)  I indicated that time is of the essence, so they should send us
>>> their offers quickly if they're available.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Guy McLendon <guy at mclendon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd go for OK City ...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Wes
>>> Benedict
>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:42 PM
>>> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting
>>>
>>> Sam, at least as of a week ago I don't think staff has been asked to
>>>
>>> research any locations. Copying Robert to verify. I proposed San Francisco
>>>
>>> recently but got zero interest from the LNC.
>>>
>>>
>>> I found a great place in Oklahoma City for $79 per night if you all are
>>>
>>> interested. Best Western Saddleback. Nice meeting space and free breakfast.
>>>
>>> Southwest Airlines doesn't charge change fees if you need to change your
>>>
>>> flight. I flew into the ice storm Saturday after Thanksgiving and the people
>>>
>>> there didn't seem to panic even with downed power lines and trees
>>>
>>> everywhere. Was nice to be able to change flight just in case though
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Dec 14, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > The date we set for our next meeting is rapidly approaching and we
>>>
>>> > have not yet selected a location.  Can we please get a report from
>>>
>>> > staff as to which locations we are considering?  I, for one, would
>>>
>>> > like to get this wrapped up in the next week so travel plans can be made.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Live Free,
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> > Sam Goldstein
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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