[Lnc-business] Screening Presidential candidates

Vicki Kirkland vickilp12 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 12 13:15:37 EST 2016


Kevin:

Having spent many years in politics, I think I know how to talk to people
about
this subject.  I'm known as a very good networker and communicator.

VK


On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:

> Which is great, Vicki.  So ask them what kind of impression they get
> looking at our marketing.  Ask them how seriously they believe we have a
> chance of growing.  Ask them how seriously of a chance we have of winning
> races.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have friends who are Libertarian, and friends who are both Democrat and
>> Republican.  The
>> common denominator amongst my friends is that the want to hear more about
>> the Libertarian
>> Party.  They are impressed with my dedication to the LP.  I talk to
>> everyone.
>>
>> Vicki Kirkland
>> Region 2 Rep
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mr. Wiener,
>>>
>>> Thank you so very much for providing that information.  Naturally I do
>>> wish there was a bit more to it, but I suppose I can appreciate why it is
>>> limited.
>>>
>>> Still, I think it's pretty disappointing that we appear to lack the
>>> proverbial stones to intervene in matters that quite obviously tarnish the
>>> party's image.  Random aside about that:
>>>
>>> As I have gotten to know more and more people within the Libertarian
>>> Party's leadership, the one peculiar aspect that I keep hearing from people
>>> is that the bulk of their friends are Libertarians.  I say it's peculiar
>>> because it's unusual for a person to only have friends who care about
>>> politics in the first place, much less who only care about the Libertarian
>>> persuasion of politics.  It's certainly possible people have just spoken
>>> hyperbolically about this point, but I have truly heard it with frequency.
>>>
>>> If that happens to apply to anybody on this list, I would strongly urge
>>> you to consider the kind of tunnel vision that could create.  I bring it up
>>> because I'm honestly questioning if this body realizes how substantial that
>>> kind of image is to people outside of our immediate spectrum.  I promise
>>> you it's very bad.  It might be fine for all of us because we know the
>>> party has much deeper parts to it and plenty of wonderful people, but you
>>> don't bring your new girlfriend to your crazy drunken uncle's house the
>>> first month you start dating.  Sure there's more to your life than just his
>>> lunatic rants, but she'll never know because she's not going to stick
>>> around to find out.  It's the same thing.
>>>
>>> I just hope that some day this party really starts to consider the power
>>> that is marketing -- especially when it's bad marketing.
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Mr. Wiener, for pointing out that rule.
>>>
>>> Kevin Ludlow
>>> Region 7 Rep
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kevin, I agree with you that I don't like our party being embarrassed
>>>> by fringe candidates.  I have urged for a long time that we create more
>>>> stringent criteria for officially acknowledging those individuals who've
>>>> decided to run for the LP's Presidential nomination.  (Not to stop them
>>>> from running, just not publicizing them.)  Four years ago I proposed a
>>>> Policy Manual amendment to do just that (see the email below), but it went
>>>> nowhere.  Who knows, perhaps the LNC may have more interest now than it did
>>>> then in coming up with *something* to distinguish serious candidates
>>>> from frivolous ones.
>>>>
>>>> However, back in 2011 I did succeed in adding the following provision
>>>> to the Policy Manual:
>>>>
>>>> *Section 2.06 PARTY COMMUNICATIONS*
>>>> *5) Assuring Quality Communications*
>>>> If a majority of all LNC members notify the Secretary of their belief
>>>> that a proposed or actual public communication is detrimental to the image
>>>> of the Party, such notification to occur no later than 72 hours after the
>>>> public communication is published, the Secretary shall inform the Executive
>>>> Director and Chair of this finding, and such communication shall not be
>>>> further disseminated, and to the extent possible, already-disseminated
>>>> material shall be promptly removed from the public sphere.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You should keep this provision in mind for any future instances in
>>>> which you've spotted something which you think is "detrimental to the image
>>>> of the Party".  Whether it's something new on the LP web site or Facebook
>>>> page or whatever, you should immediately email the LNC with your
>>>> objection.  If a majority agree with you and act fast, it can be quickly
>>>> deleted.  Failing that, four LNC members can sponsor a motion to delete it,
>>>> although the voting on such a motion will take a lot longer.
>>>>
>>>> As a member of the Advertising & Publication Review Committee, I should
>>>> also mention that the APRC does look at all LP communications.  However,
>>>> its role is officially limited to assuring that the Platform, Bylaws, and
>>>> Policy Manual are not violated, and its deliberations are required to be
>>>> confidential.  So when issues arise from time to time, no one outside the
>>>> APRC sees what things are prevented from being published, nor does anyone
>>>> else hear the concerns and arguments (and disagreements) which are
>>>> expressed within the committee.  That can often be frustrating for those of
>>>> us on the committee, but those are the limitations we have to abide by.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Wiener
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu>
>>>> Date: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM
>>>> Subject: Policy Manual motion on Presidential candidates
>>>> To: LNC Discussion <lnc-discuss at hq.lp.org>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen any further suggested modifications for the last five
>>>> days, so at this time I am proposing a motion to make the following changes
>>>> (underlined in blue) to Section 2.08(2) of the Policy Manual, and I am
>>>> asking for co-sponsors.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Wiener
>>>>
>>>> *Section 2.08(2) Limitations on Party Support for Public Office*
>>>>
>>>> *Party resources shall not be used to provide information or services
>>>> or promotional material for any candidate for public office prior to the
>>>> nomination unless:*
>>>>
>>>> * • such information or services or promotional material facilities are
>>>> available and announced on an equal basis to all Libertarians who have
>>>> declared they are seeking the nomination for President or Vice-President,
>>>> providing that a candidate is qualified according to the following
>>>> criteria:*
>>>>
>>>> *·      The candidate is a sustaining member of the national party; and*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *·      The candidate supplies a list of at least 100 sustaining
>>>> members of the national party who have declared that they consider the
>>>> candidate to be "acceptable"; and*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *·      The candidate has raised at least $5,000 in campaign
>>>> contributions from donors other than the candidate or the candidate's
>>>> immediate family.*
>>>>
>>>> *·      During the month immediately prior to the national nomination
>>>> convention, an additional criterion is that the total money which the
>>>> campaign has raised since the candidate announced **shall have
>>>> exceeded $10,000* *(from donors other than the **candidate or the
>>>> candidate's immediate family)**.*
>>>>
>>>> *• or, such information or services are generally available and
>>>> announced to all party members** in the case of non-national
>>>> candidates.*
>>>>
>>>> *• or, the service or candidate has been approved by the state chair in
>>>> the case of non-national candidates.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Qualified Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidates may, with the
>>>> assistance of any LNC member, post promotional material to the LP Blog, but
>>>> the total number of such posts shall be limited to the number of 30-day
>>>> periods prior to the nomination convention (rounded up) from when a
>>>> candidate first became qualified.  A list of qualified candidates along
>>>> with links to their web pages shall be featured on the www.lp.org
>>>> <http://www.lp.org/> web site and in LP News, and may be included in
>>>> appropriate publications and mass emailings to members.  In each case there
>>>> shall be a disclaimer stating that the party does not necessarily endorse
>>>> or agree with the candidates or the contents of their web pages. *
>>>>
>>>> *The above restrictions do not apply to the dissemination of newsworthy
>>>> information about candidates and their campaign activities, where the
>>>> source or the object of the information involves significant media outlets
>>>> which are not affiliated with the candidate.  Contemporaneous newsworthy
>>>> information about a candidate shall be aggregated to the maximum extent
>>>> practical. The APRC shall be authorized to resolve any uncertainties by
>>>> majority vote.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Kevin Ludlow
>>> 512-773-3968
>>> http://www.kevinludlow.com
>>>
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