[Lnc-business] Contract issues

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Tue Sep 20 13:58:03 EDT 2016


I am horridly out of touch.  I hear they aren't even using the term "dank"
any longer,  I can't keep up.

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>


On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:

> FYI: All the cool kids are using poisoned Skittles as the correct
> analogy these days.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > And to add saying "withe exception of that one clause" is precisely the
> > issue.  A meal may be delicious with the exception of the few grains of
> > arsenic.  I will not focus on the savour of the steak but rather the
> sting
> > of the poison.
> >
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org
> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Protecting the interests of the party and its members and us do not
> >> include eternal secrecy.  While some might have trouble seeing it, no,
> in a
> >> contract negotiation, something as huge as that, should not be missed.
> >> Whether or not it is "understandable" is not the question.  It is
> >> extraordinarily prejudical and and negligent.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Joshua Katz <
> planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In response to the implied question:  Having read the contract, I find
> it
> >>> to be a good agreement, and one that delivers excellent value to the
> Party,
> >>> with the exception of the clause under discussion.  I personally have
> >>> trouble seeing the implications of that clause, even after having it
> >>> explained to me, and so it makes perfect sense to me that those
> implications
> >>> can be missed during an extended negotiation where the primary focus
> was on
> >>> protecting the interests of the party and obtaining value for the
> party.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joshua A. Katz
> >>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to clear something up.
> >>>>
> >>>> The LNC authorized me to negotiate a contract and joint fundraising
> >>>> agreement between the party and the Gary Johnson campaign.  I have,
> >>>> for the past three and a half months, been working with our counsel,
> >>>> Oliver Hall, to negotiate a contract that would be in the best
> >>>> interest of the Libertarian Party.
> >>>>
> >>>> During those months, terms have changed during the course of the
> >>>> negotiations in both agreements.  At some point I asked Mr. Hall about
> >>>> the advisability of making the provisions of the contract public both
> >>>> before and after the election.  His advice was that it would not be
> >>>> advisable at any point, but definitely would not be prior to the
> >>>> election.  Based on that discussion, my preference would be to keep it
> >>>> confidential until inauguration day.  That was what I communicated to
> >>>> the list, but that communication was in error.
> >>>>
> >>>> The actual contract requires confidentiality of the terms.  Mr.
> >>>> Goldstein pointed out that phrase to me and I sent a correction to the
> >>>> email list as soon as I realized that I had misspoke. I understand
> >>>> that this misspeaking has created a lack of confidence and a motion to
> >>>> rescind the entire authority to execute the contract.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like it to be clear that making the contract public was not,
> >>>> to my knowledge, one of the stated objectives at the LNC meeting
> >>>> following the convention for our contract with the campaign.  A very
> >>>> small and vocal minority making it into an absolute requirement at
> >>>> this late stage of the negotiations is shifting the goalposts in the
> >>>> final seconds of the game (after, I'm not sure if signatures are
> >>>> already on the campaign's copies).
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the contract negotiated is a good one.  Others who have seen
> >>>> it are probably within their bounds to say whether they consider it a
> >>>> good or bad agreement, without discussing specific terms with LNC
> >>>> members who will not agree to keep it confidential.
> >>>>
> >>>> The effect of this motion would be to cancel everything negotiated
> >>>> because I misspoke and/or people value transparency over any other
> >>>> goal.  If that's what you want to do, you should co-sponsor it and
> >>>> vote for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yours in liberty,
> >>>> Nick
> >>>>
> >>>> P.S. Recognizing that eventual transparency is important to the
> >>>> aforementioned small and vocal minority, Oliver and I are actually in
> >>>> negotiations with the campaign for some kind of addendum that would
> >>>> modify the confidentiality terms to address those concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> In Liberty,
> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona,
> >> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org
> >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org
> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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