[Lnc-business] Oklahoma petition - February LNC Meeting

Wed Jan 6 13:07:12 EST 2016

Given the symbolic importance of this ballot drive, and if money was
essentially unlimited,  42,000 to 45,000 sigs would give a much more
comfortable margin of error.

I am not complaining about the current petition drive in Oklahoma, but in
general - are we in the business of buying petition signatures, or are we in
the business of winning elections?

In the case of ballot access retention elections, I define "winning" as
passing the vote test so that we get 2 or 4 years

of "free" ballot access.

  Scott Lieberman

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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Wes
Benedict
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:02 AM
To: Roland Riemers; lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: [Lnc-business] Oklahoma petition - Re: Fwd: Re: [Lnc-votes]
February LNC Meeting

Roland, 
We have 31,721 raw signatures. 
We need 24,712 valid signatures. Validity estimates are only estimates, but
are around 68%. If we indeed have 68% validity, we'd need 36,341 signatures
to hit right on the nose. But validity estimates are only our estimates--we
can not be sure how county officials will interpret their guidelines.
I'm nervous.
I think we need between 37,000 and 40,000 raw signatures.
We don't have enough funds approved to pay for 37,000 raw signatures.
If you could make it there and collect 1,000 signatures for free, that would
be a big gift from you to this petition drive.

Below, embedded in this email directly following this sentence, is a graph
showing the progress.

Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

On 1/6/2016 12:40 PM, Roland Riemers wrote:

Wes,

Well last night I had my van packed and ready to travel to Tulsa for a week
but looking over the weather situation for the next week at the last minute
decided I did not want to spend a day plugging along on ice slick roads at
20 mph to get there.  So, I put it off for later in month.   I did talk to
Charles Tuttle, and he will probably be starting in Tulsa tomorrow.   If,
by chance I do not make it later,  I have paid Tuttle a $1,000 advance
against Ok signatures,  and will have him credit that amount against his
signature collection.

So,  where do we stand in numbers in OK now?

Roland Riemers

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From: Wes Benedict  <mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org> <wes.benedict at lp.org>
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org 
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: [Lnc-votes] February LNC Meeting

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Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] February LNC Meeting

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Wed, 6 Jan 2016 09:53:13 -0600

From: 

travellingcircus at gmail.com

To: 

Joshua Katz mailto:jalankatz at gmail.com, Wes Benedict
mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org, James W. Lark, III  <mailto:jwl3s at virginia.edu>
mailto:jwl3s at virginia.edu, Kevin Ludlow mailto:ludlow at gmail.com, Daniel
Hayes mailto:danielehayes at icloud.com

Please share with LNC. 

Dr. Lark wrote

"*  If I understand correctly, the LP Oklahoma is allowed to conduct only
one submission of signatures in its petitioning effort.  If so, then if the
deadline for submission of signatures is at least a week later than Feb. 22,
my gut feeling is that the signatures should not be submitted on or about
Feb. 22.  Thus, it is not clear to me that one of the possible benefits of
an LNC meeting in OKC (a press conference associated with the submission of
the signatures) would materialize."

p] Fri Feb 19 should be plenty late enough to submit to the state. If we
still have any doubt that we have enough signatures on Feb 19, hopefully at
least some of the LNC members (obviously not all and I don't expect most)
will pick up a few signatures themselves while they are here instead. But I
think we are well on track to have more than enough signatures well before
then, with the only question being at what point LNC wants to cut the
funding to get additional padding. 

p] I realize not all, and quite likely not most, of the LNC will be here in
time for the turn-in, but even having a few of the key LNC members here
would add to the impact. More so even than if Nick Sarwark flies out here by
himself. 

p] The Oklahoma Party has had to overcome ballot access barriers like no
other state. They could use a shot in the arm. The ballot access barriers
here should get maximum possible publicity. OKLP is doing well with
prospective candidate recruitment. They have also done a lot given the
ballot access circumstances to be publicly visible with issue coalitions and
public events. Tina told me they are on the cusp of winning the support of a
large chunk of the small-l and generally-POed-at-poor-duopoly-choices
communities here. A shot in the arm could go a long way. 

p] I am trying to put together an event or several with several of the
campaigns for the presidential nomination. Liberty on Tap OKC is that
Thursday (Feb 18). If LNC meeting is 20-21 and the state turn in is Feb 19
that would give us a core of dates to try to plan around. Johnson of NM,
Kerbel and Petersen all expressed tentative interest in personal
conversation but dates have not been worked out or specific events 

but what I had in mind was a college appearance or several (mini-tour?),
maybe some debates/joint appearances between the campaigns. I was hoping for
January but Tina and Larry Kelly think it's not enough time to promote and
organize the events that quickly. In conjunction with the state turn in and
the LNC meeting would be good as well. I can try to fit in a few college
dates right before or after. 

p] It could also serve as the official kickoff for some of the state and
local candidates' campaigns. Plus, maybe we can get more of them if the LNC
shows up, as some people haven't decided whether to run or not yet. 

p] We are one day or less drive for many active nearby state parties, such
as much (probably most) of the Texas membership and some others. Dallas is
about 3 hours drive from OKC. 

p] Finally, and I am sure this will be THE top consideration for the LNC on
where to have its meeting, for once I won't have to travel to cover the LNC
meeting for IPR because the meeting will come to me. Please, no "in Soviet
Russia" or "in Soviet Oklahoma" jokes. 

Thanks everyone, 

-paulie
205-534-1622

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