[Lnc-business] Fwd: Ending Oklahoma paid petition drive on January 18th (today)

Fri Jan 22 11:40:53 EST 2016

I have flip flops, and I may be able to make the sacrifice to petition
during Spring Break at South Padre Island. It will be tough, as the snow in
Indiana will be hard to leave, but somebody has to do it.

Seriously, thank you, Wes! Your updates have made this process more visible
to LNC members and those that read the list outside the LNC.

Kevin, I appreciate your desire to get the nuts and bolts recorded to make
future decisions regarding $100k expenditures with more data and less
conjecture.

Brett C. Bittner

brett at brettbittner.com
404.492.6524

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty
than those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:

> Kevin, there's a giant blizzard headed my way, and I'll be rushing home to
> work from home soon, so I'm going to keep this short.
>
> 1. We contracted with one organization (the LP OK), which subcontracted to
> 31 individuals and 2 organizations so far.
>
> 2.  We have 40,045 signatures in hand.
>
> 3. 24,712 valid are required. The best estimates I've heard for validity
> are 67%, which comes to 26,830. But valid signatures is not a number that's
> knowable with certainty, even with a theoretical unlimited resources. Our
> validity checkers may make different judgements than the Oklahoma elections
> officials in each county. We want plenty of extra signatures to be safe.
> The LNC is not paying for more signatures, but volunteer and local efforts
> continue.
>
> 4. My cost estimate so far is $101,077. I don't expect it go higher hardly
> at all. We've stopped spending and paid for everything, but some small
> bills might still roll in.
>
> Finally, I'm going to interrupt this winter in Alexandria, Virgina, and
> the ice storm I endured while visiting Oklahoma, and bring back scenes from
> my experience 12 years ago petitioning in Texas. South Padre Island, Texas,
> that is. Spring Break. Click on the photo
> <https://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/80107-signatures-two-hotties-and-mismanagement-of-the-insane-professional-lp-petitioners/>for
> the full story of petitioning in Texas. See some of the same ole names in
> the comments. Kevin, you better get your flip flops ready and your sun tan
> lotion and book early for 2018 Spring Break because LP Texas is going to
> have to petition again most likely, for the first time since 2004, and I
> can't go to Padre anymore.
>
>
> <https://lastfreevoice.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/80107-signatures-two-hotties-and-mismanagement-of-the-insane-professional-lp-petitioners/>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.orgfacebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 1/22/2016 1:55 AM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:
>
> Thanks for having sent out this information, Wes.
>
> Now that the petition is ended (at least I think it is), do we have the
> numbers yet?
>
> I would be very interested in the following data points:
>
> 1) How many different people we employed to collect signatures
> 2) How many signatures we collected in total
> 3) How many VALID signatures we collected
> 4) What the total cost was for all of the signature collection
>
> And before anybody thinks there's some interest to twist it around, I'm
> simply interested in archiving this data for the future so that we have
> better records next time it comes up.  It seems to me that we do a lot of
> guess work around here.  It also seems to me that in order to improve upon
> that we really need to be more diligent with data.  As always, apologies if
> I'm mistaken, but I certainly don't know of any available resource that
> houses data like this.  I'd like to help improve that any which way I can.
>
> Kevin Ludlow
> Region 7 Rep
> 512-773-3968
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Roland. I just sent you an email separately with contacts in
>> Oklahoma that can get you set up and productive quickly. Thank you again so
>> much for helping out in such a big way.
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.orgfacebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 1/19/2016 10:57 PM, Roland Riemers wrote:
>>
>> Wes,  my latest schedule plans seems to be to leave ND on this Thursday
>> or Friday.  Instead of Tulsa, I decided on Oklahoma City instead, because I
>> have a daughter and free housing there.  She lives in Moore, Oklahoma, and
>> I have her and her husbands signatures already obligated.  Moore is in
>> Cleveland County, and it looks like a lot of good open housing developments
>> in that area, so I might just concentrate on house to house in Cleveland
>> County and maybe some large sites during the day where I can set up a table
>> and chair.  Weather looks good for this time period.
>>
>> Have anyway in Okahoma City area that would be willing to work with me a
>> few days?
>>
>> I have the petitions all printed out, and also some voter registration
>> forms for those not registered,  although not quit sure where they should
>> be turned in to.
>>
>> While in Oklahoma, locals can reach me on my cell phone at 701-317-1803.
>>
>> I will drive one of my vans down, so if any volunteers, I can also
>> provide transportation. Will also have my table and chairs and even my
>> bullhorn and a few American Flags if needed.
>>
>> Roland Riemers, ND
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Wes Benedict <Wes.Benedict at lp.org> <Wes.Benedict at lp.org>
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2016 1:32 AM
>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Fwd: Ending Oklahoma paid petition drive on
>> January 18th (today)
>>
>> Roland, we'd still like your help to cover unexpected problems with
>> validity. But we'll be finished with the paid portion of the drive today.
>>
>> If someone wants to contribute $1,500 directly to the LP Oklahoma, that
>> could pay for an additional 1,000 signatures at the $1.50 rate. Contact me
>> if you are interested in that (or Tina directly if you're in contact with
>> her). You need to make sure it goes into their ballot access fund instead
>> of their general fund to be sure it gets spent on signatures.
>>
>> Graph below (more signatures are on the way not yet reflected in that
>> graph), and the "ending" announcement is below.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Ending Oklahoma paid petition drive on January 18th (today)
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 02:22:57 -0500
>> From: Wes Benedict <Wes.Benedict at lp.org>mailto:Wes.Benedict at lp.org
>> <Wes.Benedict at lp.org>
>> To: Tina Kelly <tina.kelly at cox.net>mailto:tina.kelly at cox.net
>> <tina.kelly at cox.net>, Bill Redpath <william.redpath at lp.org>
>> mailto:william.redpath at lp.org <william.redpath at lp.org>, Nicholas Sarwark
>> <chair at lp.org>mailto:chair at lp.org <chair at lp.org>,
>> travellingcircus at gmail.com, ken.moellman at lpky.org, oliverbhall at gmail.com,
>> 'Richard Winger' <richardwinger at yahoo.com>mailto:richardwinger at yahoo.com
>> <richardwinger at yahoo.com>, 'Robert Kraus' <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>> mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>
>>
>> Due to strong progress, we are ending the paid petitioning in Oklahoma at
>> the $1.50 rate at the end of the day on January 18, 2016 (that's means
>> today if you are reading this the day it is sent).
>>
>> Petitioners will have four days to turn in their signatures to Tin Kelly
>> (turn them in by January 22, 2016).
>>
>> My note below indicated we would end the $2.50 rate on January 17, and
>> due to quantities projected, we are ending the $1.50 rate on January 18
>> (just one day's worth).
>>
>> A big thank you goes out to everyone who helped with this drive. We still
>> need a couple thousand signatures from volunteers in Oklahoma to make sure
>> this drive is successful. If you are interested in collecting as a
>> volunteer, please contact Tina Kelly.
>>
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> *New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314*
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,
>> <wes.benedict at lp.org>wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> Wes Benedict wrote on 1/11/2016 6:57 PM:
>>
>> Attention petitioners, Libertarian National Committee, and Libertarian
>> Party of Oklahoma: the deadline for paid petitioning in Oklahoma at $2.50
>> per signature is January 17. We are almost out of money and have almost
>> reached our targets.
>>
>> Thanks to a great effort by many petitioners, we are close to hitting our
>> approximate target of around 38,000 signatures paid for by the Libertarian
>> National Committee and Libertarian Party of Oklahoma. We will come close to
>> reaching that target on January 17.
>>
>> Petitioners will have four days after January 17 to get their signatures
>> turned in to Tina Kelly, the petition organizer in Oklahoma. You will not
>> get paid $2.50 per signature for signatures collected after January 17.
>>
>> We may be short a a few hundred or a few thousand signatures. We may hire
>> a few people to continue collecting signatures at $1.50 per signature after
>> January 17 perhaps for several days.  If you are interested in collecting
>> signatures for $1.50 after January 17 for a limited amount of time, please
>> contact Tina Kelly and get approval for that in advance.
>>
>> Thanks for your great work on this petition drive.
>>
>> This email is approved for release to others, including the public.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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