[Lnc-business] Screening Presidential candidates

Fri Feb 12 13:10:51 EST 2016

Which is great, Vicki.  So ask them what kind of impression they get
looking at our marketing.  Ask them how seriously they believe we have a
chance of growing.  Ask them how seriously of a chance we have of winning
races.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Vicki Kirkland <vickilp12 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have friends who are Libertarian, and friends who are both Democrat and
> Republican.  The
> common denominator amongst my friends is that the want to hear more about
> the Libertarian
> Party.  They are impressed with my dedication to the LP.  I talk to
> everyone.
>
> Vicki Kirkland
> Region 2 Rep
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:46 AM, Kevin Ludlow <ludlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mr. Wiener,
>>
>> Thank you so very much for providing that information.  Naturally I do
>> wish there was a bit more to it, but I suppose I can appreciate why it is
>> limited.
>>
>> Still, I think it's pretty disappointing that we appear to lack the
>> proverbial stones to intervene in matters that quite obviously tarnish the
>> party's image.  Random aside about that:
>>
>> As I have gotten to know more and more people within the Libertarian
>> Party's leadership, the one peculiar aspect that I keep hearing from people
>> is that the bulk of their friends are Libertarians.  I say it's peculiar
>> because it's unusual for a person to only have friends who care about
>> politics in the first place, much less who only care about the Libertarian
>> persuasion of politics.  It's certainly possible people have just spoken
>> hyperbolically about this point, but I have truly heard it with frequency.
>>
>> If that happens to apply to anybody on this list, I would strongly urge
>> you to consider the kind of tunnel vision that could create.  I bring it up
>> because I'm honestly questioning if this body realizes how substantial that
>> kind of image is to people outside of our immediate spectrum.  I promise
>> you it's very bad.  It might be fine for all of us because we know the
>> party has much deeper parts to it and plenty of wonderful people, but you
>> don't bring your new girlfriend to your crazy drunken uncle's house the
>> first month you start dating.  Sure there's more to your life than just his
>> lunatic rants, but she'll never know because she's not going to stick
>> around to find out.  It's the same thing.
>>
>> I just hope that some day this party really starts to consider the power
>> that is marketing -- especially when it's bad marketing.
>>
>> Thanks again, Mr. Wiener, for pointing out that rule.
>>
>> Kevin Ludlow
>> Region 7 Rep
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin, I agree with you that I don't like our party being embarrassed by
>>> fringe candidates.  I have urged for a long time that we create more
>>> stringent criteria for officially acknowledging those individuals who've
>>> decided to run for the LP's Presidential nomination.  (Not to stop them
>>> from running, just not publicizing them.)  Four years ago I proposed a
>>> Policy Manual amendment to do just that (see the email below), but it went
>>> nowhere.  Who knows, perhaps the LNC may have more interest now than it did
>>> then in coming up with *something* to distinguish serious candidates
>>> from frivolous ones.
>>>
>>> However, back in 2011 I did succeed in adding the following provision to
>>> the Policy Manual:
>>>
>>> *Section 2.06 PARTY COMMUNICATIONS*
>>> *5) Assuring Quality Communications*
>>> If a majority of all LNC members notify the Secretary of their belief
>>> that a proposed or actual public communication is detrimental to the image
>>> of the Party, such notification to occur no later than 72 hours after the
>>> public communication is published, the Secretary shall inform the Executive
>>> Director and Chair of this finding, and such communication shall not be
>>> further disseminated, and to the extent possible, already-disseminated
>>> material shall be promptly removed from the public sphere.
>>>
>>>
>>> You should keep this provision in mind for any future instances in which
>>> you've spotted something which you think is "detrimental to the image of
>>> the Party".  Whether it's something new on the LP web site or Facebook page
>>> or whatever, you should immediately email the LNC with your objection.  If
>>> a majority agree with you and act fast, it can be quickly deleted.  Failing
>>> that, four LNC members can sponsor a motion to delete it, although the
>>> voting on such a motion will take a lot longer.
>>>
>>> As a member of the Advertising & Publication Review Committee, I should
>>> also mention that the APRC does look at all LP communications.  However,
>>> its role is officially limited to assuring that the Platform, Bylaws, and
>>> Policy Manual are not violated, and its deliberations are required to be
>>> confidential.  So when issues arise from time to time, no one outside the
>>> APRC sees what things are prevented from being published, nor does anyone
>>> else hear the concerns and arguments (and disagreements) which are
>>> expressed within the committee.  That can often be frustrating for those of
>>> us on the committee, but those are the limitations we have to abide by.
>>>
>>> Dan Wiener
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Daniel Wiener <wiener at alum.mit.edu>
>>> Date: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM
>>> Subject: Policy Manual motion on Presidential candidates
>>> To: LNC Discussion <lnc-discuss at hq.lp.org>
>>>
>>> I haven't seen any further suggested modifications for the last five
>>> days, so at this time I am proposing a motion to make the following changes
>>> (underlined in blue) to Section 2.08(2) of the Policy Manual, and I am
>>> asking for co-sponsors.
>>>
>>> Daniel Wiener
>>>
>>> *Section 2.08(2) Limitations on Party Support for Public Office*
>>>
>>> *Party resources shall not be used to provide information or services or
>>> promotional material for any candidate for public office prior to the
>>> nomination unless:*
>>>
>>> * • such information or services or promotional material facilities are
>>> available and announced on an equal basis to all Libertarians who have
>>> declared they are seeking the nomination for President or Vice-President,
>>> providing that a candidate is qualified according to the following
>>> criteria:*
>>>
>>> *·      The candidate is a sustaining member of the national party; and*
>>>
>>>
>>> *·      The candidate supplies a list of at least 100 sustaining members
>>> of the national party who have declared that they consider the candidate to
>>> be "acceptable"; and*
>>>
>>>
>>> *·      The candidate has raised at least $5,000 in campaign
>>> contributions from donors other than the candidate or the candidate's
>>> immediate family.*
>>>
>>> *·      During the month immediately prior to the national nomination
>>> convention, an additional criterion is that the total money which the
>>> campaign has raised since the candidate announced **shall have exceeded
>>> $10,000* *(from donors other than the **candidate or the candidate's
>>> immediate family)**.*
>>>
>>> *• or, such information or services are generally available and
>>> announced to all party members** in the case of non-national
>>> candidates.*
>>>
>>> *• or, the service or candidate has been approved by the state chair in
>>> the case of non-national candidates.*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Qualified Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidates may, with the
>>> assistance of any LNC member, post promotional material to the LP Blog, but
>>> the total number of such posts shall be limited to the number of 30-day
>>> periods prior to the nomination convention (rounded up) from when a
>>> candidate first became qualified.  A list of qualified candidates along
>>> with links to their web pages shall be featured on the www.lp.org
>>> <http://www.lp.org/> web site and in LP News, and may be included in
>>> appropriate publications and mass emailings to members.  In each case there
>>> shall be a disclaimer stating that the party does not necessarily endorse
>>> or agree with the candidates or the contents of their web pages. *
>>>
>>> *The above restrictions do not apply to the dissemination of newsworthy
>>> information about candidates and their campaign activities, where the
>>> source or the object of the information involves significant media outlets
>>> which are not affiliated with the candidate.  Contemporaneous newsworthy
>>> information about a candidate shall be aggregated to the maximum extent
>>> practical. The APRC shall be authorized to resolve any uncertainties by
>>> majority vote.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> 512-773-3968
>> http://www.kevinludlow.com
>>
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