[Lnc-business] Fwd: LP national data to Stewart Flood

Fri Mar 4 03:52:46 EST 2016

I was not aware this was an option available to members of the LNC (and
apparently outside of it).

As a sitting member of the LNC, and as a member of the website committee,
am I able to request similar access to promote the Texas convention?  We
are pulling in people from all over the country and are shooting for 500
people in attendance.  As I think you likely know, I have a rather sizable
farm of servers at my disposal of which I would love to use for the purpose
of getting people to show up in April.

Furthermore, I believe the same data could be used for us to promote the
new website effort?  I would much rather us have control over this process
internally so we can get it done as we see fit.  Please advise of any
restrictions.

I'm current on the NDA.  Is there a form I need to fill out or something?

Thanks,
Kevin

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:

> Stewart has graciously offered to fire up his system again to promote the
> California convention and possibly other gotv efforts. I'm reluctant to
> give him the entire database without informing the LNC. If you have
> concerns, please let the chair know. I'll follow the chairs instructions on
> this of course.
>
> Thanks
> --Wes
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* sff at ivo.net
> *Date:* February 25, 2016 at 10:09:01 AM EST
> *To:* Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org>
> *Cc:* Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>, Mark Hinkle <mark at garlic.com>,
> Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>, Ted Brown <TedBrown1776 at hotmail.com>
> *Subject:* *Re: LP national data to Stewart Flood*
>
> Certainly.
>
> The concept behind my system is that it is a single database, encompassing
> all states.  If a state is using it, they can access only members who’s
> primary residence indicates they live in — the same criteria currently used
> to create the state “dumps” that are sent each month.
>
> The difference is that while people can appear and disappear from the
> dumps that are sent now, they don’t just disappear in my system.  Take, for
> example, the case of someone moving from California to New York.  The next
> update from national to my database following the move would indicate to
> California that the person moved to New York, and New York would see them
> as an existing member moving from California.  If during the same update
> people moved into California, they would show where they came from and not
> just be members “appearing” as happens in the dumps the states get now.
> Historical data is kept, so if someone new shows up you know where they
> were and can contact their old county/state party to find out how active
> they were — or look at notes on them if any were made public.  All changes
> are also tracked, so if someone changes something and it is found later to
> have been incorrect, the original data can still be accessed.
>
> The reason it needs the entire database is that the process compares and
> updates all addresses.  If I were to input just a single state file, all
> the contacts and members not in that state would disappear.  If another
> state wanted to use it (as South Carolina has but has not been able to),
> then I’d have to get two files, merge them somehow, and we’d still lose
> data since the system was designed to handle the entire file.
>
> I know that may not be very clear, but the issue with trying to use it for
> one state, with just their dump, would eliminate a lot of the analysis it
> is capable of doing.  It would also make it impossible to add access for
> another state easily, since I’d have to change the update system as each
> state was added.
>
> My software was not designed to replace RE, but to work with it and take
> advantage of information that RE handles well.  It is designed to aid in
> membership retention and volunteer tracking, which is has been proven in
> the past to do quite well.
>
> It can also be used for GOTV, which everyone seems to think is its primary
> purpose.  We’re too small for GOTV to work other than in targeted local
> races, where the system has actually never been tried.
>
> Hopefully I’ve explained it sufficiently.  Let me know if you have any
> additional questions.
>
>
> Stewart
> sff at ivo.net
>
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stewart, Mark Hinkle tells me you need our entire database, all 50
> states, for your program to work just for California. Can you explain a
> little bit more about that?
>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
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> On 2/24/2016 12:14 PM, Robert Kraus wrote:
>
> Ted,
>
>
> Permission to include Mr. Flood on your dump distro list?
>
>
> Live Free!
>
> Robert
>
>
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