[Lnc-business] Fwd: Request for Motion to Censure
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Thu Jun 16 08:52:28 EDT 2016
I have tried to follow this and am thus far baffled. I kept waiting for
something that had to do with things within the LNC's authority either by
black letter bylaw or policy or custom, but I cannot find it other than a
vague allegation about the Convention. Most of this seems to be either the
business of the Republican Party or the LA affiliate and not within our
purview.
Is it some complaint that there was a violation of our national NAP
membership pledge? While I have been someone in the past that has
negatively noted that we put no teeth behind this, even I don't see in this
situation - taking all allegations as true just for the sake of argument -
that we would be the ones to do the biting. These seem to be an LA
affiliate matter and the business and purview of said affiliate.
This is a long way of saying - in considering whether anyone should
co-sponsor such a motion - before we even tried to get to judgement on
facts - do we even have the jurisdiction to do so? Do we want it? It does
not appear to me that we do. Yes I suppose under Roberts we have it- but
is it the intent of this Body to get involved in censuring actions that do
not directly involve the affairs of the national party, have been handled
by an affiliate, and are not of such broad explosive potential ("so and so
found guilty of serial killing spree") that action by the LNC is absolutely
necessary? How does this uniquely touch national in such a way our
involvement is needed above and beyond that of the LA affiliate?
On Thursday, June 16, 2016, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Members,
>
> Pop another bag of popcorn..this will be covering the matter regarding the
> letter from Mr Monteleone. Please note the dates on the screen cap I
> provide of his letter. Compare it to the date of the lifting of then
> Vice-Chairman Lewis’ suspension. Also, pay attention to the quorum
> requirement that the LPL was operating under at the time.
>
> *"Special Rule 3.4.*
> *A quorum for any subsequent State Central Committee meeting shall be
> three-eighths of the actual members of the State Central Committee without
> regard tovacant positions, and must include either the Chairman or
> Vice-Chairman, and the Secretary.” *
>
> Without the Secretary, the LPL was unable to have quorum. This plays a
> major role later in this email. I had been elected to the LPL board at a
> local caucus on 4/04/13 and we had a LPL SCC meeting on 4/13/13.
>
> Below there are a series of screen caps that show the chronology of
> events. Mr Lewis Suspension lifted. This was followed by our Secretary
> Mr Reed Ebarb suddenly resigning the following day. The announcement of the
> NOT hiring again of the wildly popular executive director. The chairman
> announcing the meeting cancelled and then tendering his own resignation.
> As Mr Ebarb and Mr Monteleone had led that witch hunt, It was clearly
> retaliation against the board. This was the 2nd time Mr Monteleone had
> resigned from a position of leadership suddenly. He had resigned after
> failing to get Bob Barr on the ballot in La. As to Mr. Monteleone’s claims
> of lack of money. I had pledged $2000 to help fund the effort and two
> members had pledged $1000 each, along with a lot of smaller amounts. Also
> note that Ms Adams was hired as an independent contractor. Mr. Monteleone
> was probably violating the definition of and IC by attempting to tell Ms
> Adams how to accomplish her job instead of simply what to accomplish as her
> job. When she started forming Parish Executive Committees, Ms Adams was
> getting much praise and I think there may have been some jealously. Either
> way she worked for over 2 years after this under multiple contract renewals.
>
>
>
> *This is the Screen cap of the letter Mr McClendon included as “evidence”
> against Ms Adams showing the date it was sent to the LPL email system.*
>
>
>
>
> We met and with the assistance of Parliamentarian Richard Brown, who I
> personally hired to advise me on this difficult matter(Which frankly seemed
> like willful sabotage by some members that did not get their way.) we had a
> productive meeting and appointed all the necessary officers.
>
> My apologies for this email as well.
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 4:09 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','danielehayes at icloud.com');>> wrote:
>
> Members,
>
> I guess you should get your popcorn out and I apologize for this
> sophomoric display of hurt feelings and an inability to get over things on
> the part of Mr. McClendon. I guess having people strip on stage isn’t
> embarrassing enough when the world is watching.
> The first thing that I want to point out is this is a motion to censure me
> and Ms. Adams for alleged violations. There is a request to this board to
> censure national dues paying members for allegations? These are the same
> allegations that Mr McClendon made to our Louisiana Judicial Committee.
> These were part of a long string of tit for tat grievances that spanned
> over 2 years and more. Our Judicial Committee that was then chaired by
> Attorney Rufus Craig, who is now currently our State Party Chairman were
> found to be without merit by the investigatory committee which had 4 other
> members of which one was also a practicing attorney. During our first
> meeting of our State Central Committee after our 2016 Convention, It was
> moved by what seemed overwhelming agreement that ALL grievances against all
> members of our committee be wiped clean and this new La board start with a
> clean slate.
>
> In this motion by Mr McClendon it talks about fraud. Let me bring up the
> first bit of potential fraud in this story from a chronological
> perspective. Ms. Adams and myself were both volunteers for the 2012 Ron
> Paul campaign. She had been hired for 6 weeks as the New Orleans director.
> When the GOP shifted the caucus they pulled out their staff from La. Ms
> Adams who was a New Orleans native asked to remain without pay to work with
> the volunteers in anticipation of our upcoming delayed caucus. That was
> agreed to and she continued to do so, with the plan we had told supporters
> all along that we were going to focus on the caucus and control the
> delegates to the state convention and then the national convention and
> nominate Ron Paul from the floor. We won 4 out of 6 districts and right
> under half of the delegates from one other district and all of the
> alternates. As per the plan we would put all “Ron Paul” delegates in the
> seats that we could to the National Convention. We expected to be able to
> do 32 out of 46 with the delegates available to us. A former right hand
> man of the GOP chairman who engineered cheating Ron Paul out of a
> grassroots caucus victory in 2008 came to the RP campaign in 2011 and said
> he wanted to work with him. His position was supposed to be honorary. By
> the end he was in charge in La. He told us that we needed to give up some
> of our seats to “Romney and Santorum” delegates. We fought that tooth and
> nail because it jeopardized our ability to nominate Ron Paul from the
> floor. It was also counter to what we had been told to tell volunteers and
> delegates that had spent collectively thousands of dollars to be delegates
> in the caucus. We felt that to NOT follow our plan would be a fraud on all
> the volunteers we had encouraged to help and to run for these delegate
> spots. It was for this insistence that we stick to what we promised our
> delegates that Ms. Adams received that letter of threat from Dimitri
> Kesari. As she had been a staffer for the RP campaign they had her sign a
> VERY lopsided agreement that would have allowed the RP campaign to sue her
> in another state, without even notifying her.…all because she wanted to
> honor and follow through on what we had sold to volunteers for 9 months.
> It’s ironic because she was actually attempting to PRESERVE the delegate
> seats the exact opposite of what that letter alludes to. Out of 35 seats
> Ron Paul delegates won control of only about 15 ended up being pro Ron Paul
> at the 2012 GOP convention because they did not follow Ms. Adams advice.
> This letter was given to Mr. McClendon when he was LPL Vice Chairman in a
> confidence. He has once again violated that for his own personal gain.
> This below link is to the same Dimitri Kesari that wrote that letter:
>
>
> http://www.loudountimes.com/news/article/dimitri_kesari_found_guilty_in_second_federal_corruption_trial432
>
> Notice that he and the other two gentlemen mention in the letter as
> planning the strategy were convicted and mentioned in this recent story.
>
>
> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/5/ron-paul-staffers-jesse-benton-john-tate-dimitrios/
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>
> This covers that so called piece of evidence all the way to the right.
> called “Ron Paul 2012” Clearly some really credible fellows. The reality
> is Ms. Adams stood against people doing WRONG by the delegates who were
> INDEPENDENT of, though guided by the campaign. She was threatened by these
> corrupt individuals, but on this matter I think she is vindicated.
>
> I have CCed Rufus Craig, immediate past LPL Chairman Scott Lewis, Ms.
> Adams, Beth Vest(who was solicited for the Scott Lewis “buyout" package). I
> have included BetteRose Ryan as their is some allegation in here that there
> was some wrong doing at the convention. So this email doesn’t get too long
> I guess I will break it up. If this board were not public with every
> little thing being picked over and poured over I would probably just ignore
> most of this as it is clearly very subjective, vague, and childish. It is
> with great hesitation that I answer these spurious charges because I am
> aware of just how destructive this sort of thing can be. I am really at a
> loss that someone would do something such as this while we are trying to
> gain traction for our Candidates.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
>
>
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','votevohra at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> LNC,
>
> A request has been made from Guy McLendon, a former LNC member and current
> LP member to put forth this motion to censure. In my role as a member of
> the LNC, I am forwarding this motion to be considered by mail ballot. I
> believe that it requires 3 additional cosponsors to go to a mail ballot. If
> you wish to cosponsor this motion for it to be considered by mail ballot,
> please indicate that to this list. The motion and supporting information
> follows:
>
> *********************************************
>
>
>
> Please motion on my behalf: “Based upon evidence provided in the case
> ‘McLendon vs Hayes & Adams’, motion to censure Hayes for alleged blackmail,
> fraud and violations of the Libertarian principle of non-aggression, and to
> censure Adams for alleged violations of the Libertarian principle of
> non-aggression.” Please forward this message to the LNC in its entirety
> with six attachments.
>
>
>
> Blackmail definition:
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> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blackmail
>
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/blackmail
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>
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> Fraud definition:
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> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud
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> When a LP member believes a credible risk is present that could threaten
> the integrity of our organization, and even the integrity of some aspects
> of our conventions, that member has a duty to blow the proverbial whistle.
> It’s my hope that you, the LNC & our members don’t condemn this messenger
> for requesting a motion to censure.
>
>
>
> Please consider these general questions about our organization when
> reviewing this material:
>
> · What's the value in having the pledge of non-aggression if we
> lack an internal judicial system capable of handling gross violations of
> the NAP against our own members?
>
> · Is the public court system the only recourse to LP internal
> victims?
>
>
>
> There are features of our recent 2016 National Convention that I perceive
> as very troublesome, but at this time I have insufficient hard evidence
> upon which to issue a formal complaint. However, in convention planning
> meetings & teleconferences bullying tactics such as elevated voice levels
> have the potential to improperly influence decision making processes.
> Corroborating information is available upon request.
>
>
>
> Please protect the integrity of the LNC, and our national conventions.
>
>
>
> Respectfully yours in liberty,
>
> Guy McLendon
>
> Chairman Calcasieu Parish Louisiana
>
>
>
> --
> Arvin Vohra
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> www.VoteVohra.com <http://www.votevohra.com/>
> VoteVohra at gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','VoteVohra at gmail.com');>
> (301) 320-3634
> <LNC Case Description - Violation of NAP_updated 2016 June 3.pdf><Expel
> James Madison - Facebook Group Chat Summer 2013.pdf><Daniel Hayes
> Voicemail on 8323728131 2015 early Feb.wma><Defense - allegation_buy
> Scott out_2016 June 3.pdf><Adrien-Monteleone-Email-about-Wendy-Adams.pdf><Ron
> Paul 2012 Campaign_5-24-12-letter-to-Wendy-Adams.pdf>
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative
(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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