[Lnc-business] Motion- LP of Colorado and Riot Fest - request for co-sponsors

Sam Goldstein goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com
Sat Jun 25 23:11:03 EDT 2016


I will co-sponsor this motion.



Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
Member at Large
8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
Indianapolis IN 46260
317-850-0726 Phone
317-582-1773 Fax

On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I heard from Tim that there is $24,600 left in budget for affiliate
> support.  So I would slightly amend my motion to:
>
> Move that the LNC provide $600.00 to LPCO for the Riot Fest event.  These
> funds would come from the budget for Affiliate Support.
>
>
> I want to be sure that my co-sponsors Brett, Daniel, and Sam do not object
> to that addition.
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL I was going to say Sam was paying for it.  I sent Tim an email.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt they would object unless you find a strange place to get the
>>> money!
>>> On Jun 24, 2016 5:17 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sam will I have to then ask the three co-sponsors if they agree again?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Caryn,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you have to refine your motion as to where the money will come
>>>>> from in the current budget.  You might want to ask Tim Hagan (off line) if
>>>>> there is enough left in Affiliate Support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Alicia, I will withdraw that request on the second motion
>>>>>> and notify LPCO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, there are three co-sponsors in addition to myself on the
>>>>>> first motion.  I believe this means that the first one can be requested for
>>>>>> email vote?  Am I correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy Burns is not an employee of the LNC.  He is a contractor.  That
>>>>>>> means we have to avoid doing things that a judge would say made him an
>>>>>>> employee and obligated us to payroll taxes and other benefits of being an
>>>>>>> employee.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can't dictate to him very much about how his job is done.  We can
>>>>>>> give him goals we want accomplished, but he has great freedom to decide how
>>>>>>> that gets done, what days/hours he works, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we adopt a motion directing him as though he is an employee,
>>>>>>> that's legally problematic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I brought this up on the list before and took the discussion off
>>>>>>>> list with Wes, Robert, and Nick, and it was decided that this is something
>>>>>>>> that the LNC would need to decide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The background once again, and this blurb is from the Chair of the
>>>>>>>> LPCO Jay North:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==Colorado would like to have the LNC help fund Riot Fest in
>>>>>>>> Denver Colorado for September 2-4.  The cost of the event is $800,
>>>>>>>> $200 for insurance and $100 for additional volunteer passes.  The minimum
>>>>>>>> cost to LPCO for the event is $1000.  LPCO is requesting the LNC to help
>>>>>>>> cover the costs of the event as Riot Fest is a national event held in
>>>>>>>> Colorado.  The LPCO has already approved funding of $800.  LPCO would like
>>>>>>>> LNC to contribute at least $200 or more as they see fit.  LPCO will share
>>>>>>>> all contact information gathered at the event.==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus in accordance with Colorado's request, I propose these motions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Move that the LNC provide $600.00 to LPCO for the Riot Fest event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Move that the LNC direct Andy Burns attend the event and to bring
>>>>>>>> national materials, as he sees fit, to be given and sold, with any proceeds
>>>>>>>> thereof going to the LNC.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to add my own commentary.  I am bringing these at the
>>>>>>>> request of Colorado as their regional representative.  However, I have a
>>>>>>>> conflict of interest in that I sit on the LPCO board and thus would abstain
>>>>>>>> from any vote on this matter.  And I would like to remind any affiliate in
>>>>>>>> my region that if they had an event that had a national scope that they
>>>>>>>> wished for me to bring to the attention of the LNC in this manner, I would
>>>>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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>>>> In Liberty,
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>> Washington)
>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington)
>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative
> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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