[Lnc-business] Motion- LP of Colorado and Riot Fest - request for co-sponsors

Sun Jun 26 09:26:32 EDT 2016

Sorry for my delayed response, everyone.

I reaffirm my willingness to co-sponsor Caryn Ann's motion as it now reads.

Brett

**This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
On Jun 25, 2016 23:50, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:

> I will co-sponsor this new motion.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 10:11 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I will co-sponsor this motion.
>
>
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 Phone
> 317-582-1773 Fax
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I heard from Tim that there is $24,600 left in budget for affiliate
>> support.  So I would slightly amend my motion to:
>>
>> Move that the LNC provide $600.00 to LPCO for the Riot Fest event.  These
>> funds would come from the budget for Affiliate Support.
>>
>>
>> I want to be sure that my co-sponsors Brett, Daniel, and Sam do not
>> object to that addition.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> LOL I was going to say Sam was paying for it.  I sent Tim an email.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt they would object unless you find a strange place to get the
>>>> money!
>>>> On Jun 24, 2016 5:17 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sam will I have to then ask the three co-sponsors if they agree again?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Caryn,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think you have to refine your motion as to where the money will
>>>>>> come from in the current budget.  You might want to ask Tim Hagan (off
>>>>>> line) if there is enough left in Affiliate Support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Alicia, I will withdraw that request on the second motion
>>>>>>> and notify LPCO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, there are three co-sponsors in addition to myself on the
>>>>>>> first motion.  I believe this means that the first one can be requested for
>>>>>>> email vote?  Am I correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy Burns is not an employee of the LNC.  He is a contractor.
>>>>>>>> That means we have to avoid doing things that a judge would say made him an
>>>>>>>> employee and obligated us to payroll taxes and other benefits of being an
>>>>>>>> employee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can't dictate to him very much about how his job is done.  We
>>>>>>>> can give him goals we want accomplished, but he has great freedom to decide
>>>>>>>> how that gets done, what days/hours he works, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we adopt a motion directing him as though he is an employee,
>>>>>>>> that's legally problematic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I brought this up on the list before and took the discussion off
>>>>>>>>> list with Wes, Robert, and Nick, and it was decided that this is something
>>>>>>>>> that the LNC would need to decide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The background once again, and this blurb is from the Chair of the
>>>>>>>>> LPCO Jay North:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ==Colorado would like to have the LNC help fund Riot Fest in
>>>>>>>>> Denver Colorado for September 2-4.  The cost of the event is
>>>>>>>>> $800, $200 for insurance and $100 for additional volunteer passes.  The
>>>>>>>>> minimum cost to LPCO for the event is $1000.  LPCO is requesting the LNC to
>>>>>>>>> help cover the costs of the event as Riot Fest is a national event held in
>>>>>>>>> Colorado.  The LPCO has already approved funding of $800.  LPCO would like
>>>>>>>>> LNC to contribute at least $200 or more as they see fit.  LPCO will share
>>>>>>>>> all contact information gathered at the event.==
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thus in accordance with Colorado's request, I propose these
>>>>>>>>> motions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Move that the LNC provide $600.00 to LPCO for the Riot Fest event.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Move that the LNC direct Andy Burns attend the event and to bring
>>>>>>>>> national materials, as he sees fit, to be given and sold, with any proceeds
>>>>>>>>> thereof going to the LNC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to add my own commentary.  I am bringing these at the
>>>>>>>>> request of Colorado as their regional representative.  However, I have a
>>>>>>>>> conflict of interest in that I sit on the LPCO board and thus would abstain
>>>>>>>>> from any vote on this matter.  And I would like to remind any affiliate in
>>>>>>>>> my region that if they had an event that had a national scope that they
>>>>>>>>> wished for me to bring to the attention of the LNC in this manner, I would
>>>>>>>>> do so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>>>>>>> Wyoming, Washington)
>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at lp.org>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at lp.org>
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>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative
>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>> Washington)
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at lp.org>
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>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Region 1 Representative
>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington)
>>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at lp.org>
>>>
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>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative
>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington)
>> Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at lp.org>
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