[Lnc-business] Compiling agenda for July 17 meeting

Ken Moellman ken.moellman at lpky.org
Sun Jul 3 09:57:09 EDT 2016


 

I personally do not feel like just going down the list of people is
actually appropriate, given how approval voting actually works. Our
bylaws specifically state "The top five candidates receiving a MAJORITY
vote of the ballots cast shall be elected. Tie votes affecting the
outcome shall be decided by lot." (emphasis added). 

If the body follows "the precedent", we're literally under 1/3rd
convention body approval for the next candidate in line. I do not know
the person personally, and don't mean this to be any sort of personal
attack or anything. My concern is that there's a real possibility that
given a 1/3rd approval that up to 2/3rds would disapprove;
mathematically, it becomes more and more likely that we'd be selecting
someone that the convention body actually wouldn't approve of. This
"next person in line" methodology fails without being able to track
preference. 

Given that candidate preference cannot be tracked using Approval Voting,
I'm not sure that there's a real mechanism to select someone in
accordance with the actual wishes of the convention body. And if we
continue this precedent, it's going to break Approval Voting entirely
anyway as people begin using strategic bulleted voting more and more. 

I very much think we need to switch to another system - I personally
prefer Instant Runoff - so we have definitive winners and clear
convention body preference for runners-up in the future. 

For this and all subsequent vacancies, I suggest a thoughtful
deliberation on the appointment and not just an automatic "next in line"
strategic, so long as Approval Voting is in place. 
---
Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
LPKY Judicial Committee 

On 2016-07-03 08:46, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote: 

> That is in fact my strong preference as well. The convention just happened. The delegates and candidates who cared to run and put effort into it (some of them actively campaigning) were give short shrift, and this rankles me even now. The only metric we have of their preference is these votes. 
> 
> IN LIBERTY, 
> CARYN ANN HARLOS 
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org 
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [1] 
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus [2] 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Alicia. I know the Chair is planning to place the At Large opening on the agenda for the next LNC meeting. Since I will be 
> unable to attend, I'd prefer to address this matter in an e-mail ballot following discussion and nominations. 
> 
> Our precedent is to look to the At Large voting at the convention and to take the delegate's stated preferences to heart when filling 
> vacancies of this nature. 
> 
> Live Free, 
> 
> Sam Goldstein 
> Libertarian National Committee 
> Member at Large 
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> Indianapolis IN 46260 
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> 
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Will we be publishing something to advertise the vacancy and invite applicants?
> 
> -Alicia
> 
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm putting together a proposed agenda for the July 17 meeting in Las
> Vegas. I am already planning to include time for discussion of
> filling the At-Large vacancy created by Dr. Feldman's death,
> population of the Audit Committee, and discussion of creating a
> national reregistration week (at the request of Mr. Somes).
> 
> If you have other items that you would like to add to the proposed
> agenda, please email me with a description and the amount of time you
> would like on the agenda. As a reminder, we will only be having a
> one-day meeting in Las Vegas, so we will need to be efficient with our
> time. To that end, we will have a working lunch brought in so as to
> avoid losing committee members for that time.
> 
> Yours in liberty,
> Nick
> 
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IN LIBERTY, 
CARYN ANN HARLOS 
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org 
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado [6] 
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus [7] 

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