[Lnc-business] Functional and transparent committees

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Mon Jul 25 21:41:36 EDT 2016


Ken I want to quickly give committees such power (but let me be clear - it
is not just spending that propels me to want transparency).  We just
empowered ASC with this and our Chair suggested we might want to entertain
a Candidate support committee  - this cannot wait in my view.

Our reluctance to only take up things more than four times a year  baffles
and frustrates me. I couldn't imagine the LPCO functioning properly that
way - much less the LNC.

Why wait?

On Monday, July 25, 2016, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:

> As the chair of a committee with no such empowerment, I would note that if
> there's concern, then perhaps committees shouldn't be given spending power
> until it is resolved. Alternately, perhaps the policy manual addition
> should only initially apply to committees with the ability to spend.
>
> ken
>
>
>
> On 2016-07-25 21:11, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> My intent is to try to hash out via email and propose for a Sept meeting
> if we can't agree via email.
>
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sfdreamer at earthlink.net');>> wrote:
>
>> I agree there's no reason to wait half a year. Getting functional
>> committees should be a high priority, in my opinion. We've got plenty of
>> time to discuss the issue via email, or at an online meeting in September.
>>
>> Love & Liberty,
>>                                    ((( starchild )))
>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>                        RealReform at earthlink.net
>>                                 (415) 625-FREE
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> I would like to try to get this in place sooner.  We are empowering
>> committees to spend money - we need transparency.  Dec is- IMHO- too late.
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I have input on the subject that I'd like to discuss it at the DC
>>> meeting. So I guess both go hand-in-hand. :)
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-07-25 20:49, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that everyone has come alive - could I persuade discussion on my
>>> committee transparency email thread?
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since we are doing the party's business I have no problem with spending
>>>> members contributions to conduct our meetings in a space designed for that
>>>> purpose.  LNC members spend their own money and use their valuable time for
>>>> these meetings and to take us to also
>>>> contribute to paying for meeting space is the height of absurdity.
>>>>
>>>> If certain members object to the practice then I suggest they resign
>>>> from the committee so as not to violate their principles.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While I enjoy being outside, I must concur with Mr. Bittner. It might
>>>>> be a little chilly and windy in December for an outdoor meeting in DC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if we're meeting by a pool in Orlando, or on the beach in Tampa,
>>>>> well...  I'm in!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-07-25 20:20, Brett Bittner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on my experiences since moving north from Georgia, it might be a
>>>>> bit chilly to meet outside in December in Alexandria/the DC area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brett C. Bittner
>>>>>
>>>>> Region 3 Representative
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee <http://lp.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> brett.bittner at lp.org
>>>>> 317.699.2611
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to be out in the fresh air, and wouldn't waste
>>>>>> hundreds of dollars of our supporters' money that could be going toward
>>>>>> outreach instead. When people came over and asked what we were doing, it
>>>>>> would be an opportunity for staff or observers to give them some literature
>>>>>> and turn them on to libertarianism and the LP. But I realize that some of
>>>>>> you value comfort and dignity more than saving the party money or advancing
>>>>>> the cause of freedom, so I'm willing to compromise and meet in a back room
>>>>>> at a restaurant or something. Personally I oppose paying for meeting space
>>>>>> when it is unnecessary to do so unless LNC members are willing to spend *their
>>>>>> own* money on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>                                    ((( starchild )))
>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>                        RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>>>                                 (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Alexandria meetings have been at the Residence Inn Alexandria at
>>>>>> 1456 Duke St.  It is about 2 blocks from the LP office.  That is no
>>>>>> guarantee that we will have it there again.   Starchild might prefer to
>>>>>> stage the meeting on the National Mall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we know what hotel the next meeting will be at?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
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> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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