[Lnc-business] Amended Gun Rights/Watch List Resolution - seeking co-sponsors

Tue Aug 9 22:37:49 EDT 2016

I too would rather go with the original language.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> I am sticking with the motion sponsored by Harlos, Hayes, Katz, and,
> Goldstein.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 9, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I support the language I offered to co-sponsor.
>
> Live Free,
>
>
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 Phone
> 317-582-1773 Fax
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I have to confess that the whole email ballot thing is cumbersome.
>>
>> How do the current co-sponsors feel about these changes?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to co-sponsor, but putting on my wordsmith hat, request the
>>> motion be reworded with the following typographical and substantive
>>> changes, if this is amenable to the sponsor, to read as follows (changes in
>>> red):
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>> right;
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any
>>>> level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of
>>>> due process and denies the legitimacy of laws against victimless "crimes”;
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the governments in the United States have has steadily
>>>> encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and
>>>> restricting access for to firearms and ammunition and may further seek
>>>> to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of their
>>>> inherent right to full abrogate civil rights, and indeed the basic
>>>> human right, to self-defense by prohibiting access denying their civil
>>>> and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition even in cases
>>>> where a person has not been convicted of any crime; and
>>>> WHEREAS some recent statements by Libertarian candidates appearing in
>>>> the media have the potential to cause confusion among members of the public
>>>> regarding how Libertarians view these issues;
>>>>
>>>> THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee
>>>> opposes any law or policy which would deny or restrict any person's
>>>> access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for being
>>>> placed as a result of their name appearing on any a government watch
>>>> or no-fly list, and reaffirms its both our party's opposition to any
>>>> further and oppose existing or proposed regulations on firearms and
>>>> ammunition as described above and our demand that all such existing
>>>> regulations be repealed, and calls upon Libertarian candidates to uphold
>>>> our party's pro-freedom stance.
>>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>                                  ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>                                (415) 625-FREE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>
>>> I will also cosponsor this one.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In furtherance of the request from CO and now AZ (and likely WA) for
>>>> the LNC to consider a resolution similar to the CO Gun Rights and Watch
>>>> Lists Resolution, and Sam Goldstein's commentary on my prior request, I
>>>> offer a motion to adopt the following resolution:
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human
>>>> right;
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any
>>>> level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the
>>>> ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of
>>>> due process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>>
>>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately
>>>> regulating and restricting access for firearms and ammunition and may
>>>> further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of
>>>> their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil and
>>>> inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>>>
>>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any
>>>> policy which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any
>>>> person simply for being placed on any government watch or no-fly list
>>>> and reaffirms its call to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed
>>>> firearm and ammunition regulations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
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