[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-03: Gun Rights Resolution

[Alicia Mattson]

Nice catch, Whitney.  I've credited you with a brownie point.

And now the bad news...

In a meeting where we're all participating at the same time, we vote on
amendments before we vote on the main motion.  The amendments may impact
how we want to vote on the main motion.

In email ballots, there's no real process for handling amendments before
voting on the main motion.

Once the main motion starts, it can take up to 10 days to complete.
Amendments are motions just like any other, and the only way to vote on
them is by email ballot.  If you start an amendment afterwards, that also
takes up to 10 days to complete.  Unless there is a successful
get-out-the-vote effort to get everyone to vote on the amendment early, the
amendment vote will end until after the main motion has ended.  People have
to vote on the main motion not knowing whether or not the amendment will be
adopted.  This is backwards order.

In the current situation, processing Starchild's extensive amendment as an
amend-something-previously-adopted motion isn't so bad because it
essentially gives the LNC a choice between two different versions.

We could start yet a third email ballot as an
amend-something-previously-adopted to fix the grammatical error that Ms.
Bilyeu has pointed out...

If we were in a face-to-face meeting, this fix would very likely be done in
a few seconds by asking, "Is there objection to this correction?  Hearing
no objection, the grammatical error will be fixed."

I'm going to suggest that we use the same method here.  Though it's not
technically correct, I don't really imagine anyone complaining about it or
arguing that their rights were violated.


*IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, I WILL CORRECT THE DENY/DENIES GRAMMATICAL ERROR
IN EMAIL BALLOT 2016-03.*
I'll wait the same 10 days that our bylaws establish as being a reasonable
amount of time for someone to participate in an email ballot.

If someone objects, then we'll run another email ballot and process it
formally.

-Alicia




On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I ask that a correction be made to the following statement...3rd clause of
> the resolution.
>
> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due
> process and deny (denies) the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>
> The verbs must agree with the subject...which is the Platform of the
> Libertarian Party (singular), and it affirms and denies...
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Aug 12, 2016 10:41 PM, "Alicia Mattson" <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>
>>
>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by August 22, 2016 at 11:59:59pm
>> Pacific time.*
>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein, Vohra
>>
>> *Motion:*
>>
>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human right;
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any
>> level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the ownership,
>> manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>
>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due
>> process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>
>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by
>> illegitimately regulating and restricting access for firearms and
>> ammunition and may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted
>> of no crime of their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their
>> civil and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>
>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any policy
>> which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply
>> for being placed on any government watch or no-fly list and reaffirms its
>> call to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed firearm and ammunition
>> regulations.
>>
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
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