[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 10:50:00 EDT 2016
Dr. Lark's participation considering his extensive submission already to
the goals discussion is essential in my book. How about we look at Sunday
the 18th?
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:48 AM, James Lark <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu>
wrote:
> Dear colleagues:
>
> I hope all is well with you. I shall not be able to participate in a
> meeting held on Sept. 17 at 3:00 p.m. (EDT?) I shall be unavailable on
> Sept. 17 from roughly 12:00 p.m. EDT until roughly 8:30 p.m. EDT. Allow me
> to note that Sept. 17 is frequently celebrated as Constitution Day; some LP
> organizations conduct outreach events on that day.
>
> For whatever it is worth, I have commitments on each Saturday from
> Sept. 3 until Nov. 19 (in most cases I shall be involved with Libertarian
> activities). If we must hold a meeting on a Saturday in September, I
> request that it begin no earlier than 8:00 p.m. EDT. Also, I prefer that
> we not hold a meeting on Sept. 10 unless absolutely necessary.
>
> Thanks for your work for liberty, and for considering my requests.
>
> Take care,
> Jim
>
> James W. Lark, III
> Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
> Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
> University of Virginia
>
> Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
> University of Virginia
>
> Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> -----
>
>
> On 8/19/2016 9:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm
> suggestion. I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as
> described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm
> on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:
>
> Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)
> Transparency proposal
> Campaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)
>
> Now that there is something specific... thoughts? Firm support?
>
> Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
>
>
> 1.
>
> d) Electronic meetings may be called by either:
> -
>
> The committee Chair, or
> -
>
> 1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is
> greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a
> majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the
> entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
> 2.
>
> e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do so
> by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting,
> time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so
> called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than
> 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members.
> These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's
> Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
>
>
> 1.
>
> f) For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a meeting
> must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
> 2.
>
> g) When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an
> electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice
> of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition
> to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to
> participate in the meeting.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into
>> strong walls.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
>>> Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
>>> win. There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will need to
>>> retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do. And if we win,
>>> it is still a great portion of goals to discuss. We can't let these brand
>>> new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
>>>> electronic meeting. The other part is closely related, though - I just
>>>> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
>>>> we seem to want to have on goals. In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
>>>> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
>>>> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
>>>> meeting. Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
>>>> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
>>>> not sure. In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
>>>> hours. I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
>>>> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
>>>> than something like goals. Just my $.02 though.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter. If things are not completed, we
>>>>> discuss another one. Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum
>>>>> though I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>>>>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first
>>>>>> time a group uses a new technology. Online meetings are adequate for one
>>>>>> or two narrow subjects at a time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting. Some are dealing with
>>>>>> other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions. There will be
>>>>>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>>>>>> ringing phones, etc. There's usually at least one person who will not
>>>>>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>>>>>> else. It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances. Some are
>>>>>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me
>>>>>> to keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking
>>>>>> who forgot to self-mute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal. If there are a couple of
>>>>>> subjects we need to take up, fine. But we really should try a 1-2 hour
>>>>>> meeting first before we shoot for the moon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Joshua. We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>>>>>> enough support. Or if the Chair calls a meeting. A member asked me
>>>>>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>>>>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>>>>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September. I'm not sure
>>>>>>>> about handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet. My
>>>>>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this: I can't tell you
>>>>>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>>>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting. I would
>>>>>>>>> like people to give availibility. Seems to me this is something that can
>>>>>>>>> and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Business? Primarily the goals that were not done the last
>>>>>>>>> meeting. And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the
>>>>>>>>> transparency proposal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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