[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Aug 20 14:56:30 EDT 2016
I am averse to having a meeting on 9/11 just for memorial reasons. That
day is tough emotionally for a lot of people. How about the 25th? I would
agree to the 11th if other meeting supporters wanted it.
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:
> I have an event that day too till 5 pm central... That is THE worst
> weekend for me. I could do 8pm which Dr large expressed interest in but
> that leaves out Tim. Sunday September 11th is better for me.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 20, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It looks like a Sunday is better for everyone. So how about 9/18 3pm ET
> through 6 pm ET.
>
> We need 1/3 of the committee to call this. I am one. Who will join me?
> (and add potential items to discuss). There are 17 members so by my
> terrible math we need 6 members to call.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 8:27 AM, David Demarest <
> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>> I am available for a meeting on any Sunday in September except that I
>> will have to jump off at 8:00 PM CT for an LPNE SCC meeting to handle my
>> duties as secretary.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>
>> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
>>
>> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO,
>> ND, NE, WI)
>>
>> Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus
>>
>> Secretary at LPNE.org
>>
>> David.Demarest at LP.org
>>
>> DPDemarest at centurylink.net
>>
>> David.Demarest at firstdata.com
>>
>> Cell: 402-981-6469
>>
>> Home: 402-493-0873
>>
>> Office: 402-222-7207
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Tim Hagan
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 11:41 PM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for
>> co-requestors
>>
>>
>>
>> I can meet September 18. I'm available any Sunday in September. If it's
>> on a Saturday, I have a preference for Sept 24, but could make any Saturday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Hagan
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2016 7:50 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for
>> co-requestors
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Lark's participation considering his extensive submission already to
>> the goals discussion is essential in my book. How about we look at Sunday
>> the 18th?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 7:48 AM, James Lark <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues:
>>
>> I hope all is well with you. I shall not be able to participate in a
>> meeting held on Sept. 17 at 3:00 p.m. (EDT?) I shall be unavailable on
>> Sept. 17 from roughly 12:00 p.m. EDT until roughly 8:30 p.m. EDT. Allow me
>> to note that Sept. 17 is frequently celebrated as Constitution Day; some LP
>> organizations conduct outreach events on that day.
>>
>> For whatever it is worth, I have commitments on each Saturday from
>> Sept. 3 until Nov. 19 (in most cases I shall be involved with Libertarian
>> activities). If we must hold a meeting on a Saturday in September, I
>> request that it begin no earlier than 8:00 p.m. EDT. Also, I prefer that
>> we not hold a meeting on Sept. 10 unless absolutely necessary.
>>
>> Thanks for your work for liberty, and for considering my requests.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Jim
>>
>> James W. Lark, III
>> Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
>> Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
>> University of Virginia
>>
>> Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>> University of Virginia
>>
>> Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> -----
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/19/2016 9:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm
>> suggestion. I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as
>> described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm
>> on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:
>>
>>
>>
>> Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)
>>
>> Transparency proposal
>>
>> Campaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)
>>
>>
>>
>> Now that there is something specific... thoughts? Firm support?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. d) Electronic meetings may be called by either:
>>
>>
>> - The committee Chair, or
>>
>>
>> - 1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is
>> greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a
>> majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the
>> entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
>>
>>
>> 1. e) Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must
>> do so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the
>> meeting, time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings
>> must be so called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer
>> than 10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more
>> members. These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee,
>> the LNC's Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial
>> Committee.
>>
>>
>> 1. f) For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a
>> meeting must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
>>
>>
>> 1. g) When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an
>> electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice
>> of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition
>> to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to
>> participate in the meeting.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof into
>> strong walls.
>>
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
>> Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
>> win. There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will need to
>> retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do. And if we win,
>> it is still a great portion of goals to discuss. We can't let these brand
>> new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
>> electronic meeting. The other part is closely related, though - I just
>> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
>> we seem to want to have on goals. In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
>> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
>> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
>> meeting. Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
>> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
>> not sure. In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
>> hours. I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
>> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
>> than something like goals. Just my $.02 though.
>>
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter. If things are not completed, we discuss
>> another one. Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum though
>> I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first time a
>> group uses a new technology. Online meetings are adequate for one or two
>> narrow subjects at a time.
>>
>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting. Some are dealing with other
>> distractions like pets, other people, and televisions. There will be
>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>> ringing phones, etc. There's usually at least one person who will not
>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>> else. It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances. Some are
>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>
>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me to
>> keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking who
>> forgot to self-mute.
>>
>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal. If there are a couple of subjects
>> we need to take up, fine. But we really should try a 1-2 hour meeting
>> first before we shoot for the moon.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Joshua. We can start batting around some dates if we get
>> enough support. Or if the Chair calls a meeting. A member asked me
>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with meeting electronically in September. I'm not sure about
>> handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet. My
>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this: I can't tell you
>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting. I would like
>> people to give availibility. Seems to me this is something that can and
>> should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Business? Primarily the goals that were not done the last meeting. And
>> any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the transparency
>> proposal.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
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>>
>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
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>> --
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>> *In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
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Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
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