[Lnc-business] September meeting, prior to asking for co-requestors

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sun Aug 21 13:04:37 EDT 2016


Whitney the proposed dates are now 9/11, 9/18 or 9/25

On Sunday, August 21, 2016, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I cannot participate in a meeting on 9/17.  I will be at my state
> executive committee meeting all day that day.
>
> Whitney Bilyeu
>
> On Aug 19, 2016 8:12 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Okay now then with this limited feedback, I will make a more firm
>> suggestion.  I would like supporters for a 9/17/16 electronic meeting as
>> described by our Policy Manuel to be scheduled for 3 hours beginning at 3pm
>> on 9/17/16 with the following agenda topics:
>>
>> Goals (focusing on post-November member retention)
>> Transparency proposal
>> Campaign update (perhaps invite Nielson)
>>
>> Now that there is something specific... thoughts?  Firm support?
>>
>> Here are the Policy Manual Provisions as I understand:
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>
>>    d)  Electronic meetings may be called by either:
>>    -
>>
>>       The committee Chair, or
>>       -
>>
>>       1/3 of the committee members or 2 committee members, whichever is
>>       greater. However, the call of an electronic meeting can be canceled if a
>>       majority of the committee members email a cancellation request to the
>>       entire committee prior to the scheduled time of the meeting.
>>       2.
>>
>>    e)  Each committee member calling for an electronic meeting must do
>>    so by emailing the entire committee and specifying the date of the meeting,
>>    time of the meeting, and the topic(s) to be addressed. Meetings must be so
>>    called no fewer than 2 days in advance for committees with fewer than
>>    10 members, or 7 days in advance for committees with 10 or more members.
>>    These time limits do not apply to the LNC's Executive Committee, the LNC's
>>    Advertising and Publications Review Committee, or the Judicial Committee.
>>
>>
>>    1.
>>
>>    f)  For electronic LNC meetings, messages calling or vetoing a
>>    meeting must be sent on the LNC-Business email list.
>>    2.
>>
>>    g)  When a sufficient number of people have issued a call for an
>>    electronic meeting, the committee Chair or Secretary shall issue a notice
>>    of the meeting to each member and alternate of the committee. In addition
>>    to the standard notice content, the meeting notice shall describe how to
>>    participate in the meeting.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree entirely that we need to figure out how to turn the new roof
>>> into strong walls.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Joshua, perhaps just one portion of goals could be discussed.
>>>> Specifically member retention following November in the event we don't
>>>> win.  There will be a lot of disillusioned people that we will  need to
>>>> retain for all the great Libertarian work there is to do.  And if we win,
>>>> it is still a great portion of goals to discuss.  We can't let these brand
>>>> new Libertarians slip through the cracks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is, in part, why I didn't think goals was a good topic for the
>>>>> electronic meeting.  The other part is closely related, though - I just
>>>>> don't think the online environment is conducive to the type of discussion
>>>>> we seem to want to have on goals.  In addition to what Alicia pointed out,
>>>>> there's just something uncomfortable about sitting in front of the computer
>>>>> and having a meeting, something different from what happens in a physical
>>>>> meeting.  Maybe it's the way your camera and headphones keep you from
>>>>> getting up and walking around the room, maybe it's the artificial feel, I'm
>>>>> not sure.  In any case, I strongly agree that we should keep it to 1-2
>>>>> hours.  I'd rather we take up business that needs real discussion but can
>>>>> be completed reasonably quickly, such as your transparency proposal, rather
>>>>> than something like goals.  Just my $.02 though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alicia, I am fine with shorter.  If things are not completed, we
>>>>>> discuss another one.  Let's shoot for two hours then for goals at a minimum
>>>>>> though I really would like my transparency proposal to be heard as it is
>>>>>> prerequisite to an empower committee proposal I am working on with Joshua.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','agmattson at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4-6 hours is a LOT for an online meeting, especially for the first
>>>>>>> time a group uses a new technology.  Online meetings are adequate for one
>>>>>>> or two narrow subjects at a time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is NOT the same as an in-person meeting.  Some are dealing with
>>>>>>> other distractions like pets, other people, and televisions.  There will be
>>>>>>> barking dogs, interrupting kids/grandkids, neighbors mowing the yard,
>>>>>>> ringing phones, etc.  There's usually at least one person who will not
>>>>>>> follow the instructions about how to avoid creating an echo for everyone
>>>>>>> else.  It's really hard to pay attention in those circumstances.  Some are
>>>>>>> not tech savvy and struggle to participate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The last time we had one, it was like a game of whack-a-mole for me
>>>>>>> to keep background noise out from the microphones of people not speaking
>>>>>>> who forgot to self-mute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's not schedule an all-day ordeal.  If there are a couple of
>>>>>>> subjects we need to take up, fine.  But we really should try a 1-2 hour
>>>>>>> meeting first before we shoot for the moon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Alicia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Joshua.  We can start batting around some dates if we get
>>>>>>>> enough support.  Or if the Chair calls a meeting.  A member asked me
>>>>>>>> privately how much time I was talking about and I said 4-6 hours total (I
>>>>>>>> anticipate there will be other agenda items that people would want, and
>>>>>>>> perhaps inviting Nielson to give a campaign update would be in order).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with meeting electronically in September.  I'm not sure
>>>>>>>>> about handling goals at such a meeting, but I do think we should meet.  My
>>>>>>>>> availability is questionable, though, but I'll say this:  I can't tell you
>>>>>>>>> "I'm available at such and such times" but I will make every effort to
>>>>>>>>> attend, whenever it is scheduled.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I firmly believe we need a September electronic meeting.  I would
>>>>>>>>>> like people to give availibility.  Seems to me this is something that can
>>>>>>>>>> and should be discussed publicly without off-list private discussions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Business?  Primarily the goals that were not done the last
>>>>>>>>>> meeting.  And any other outstanding issues, for myself that would be the
>>>>>>>>>> transparency proposal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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