[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-03: Gun Rights Resolution

[Daniel Hayes]

I withdraw my request Alicia.

Maybe we can make some changes for the future regarding minor grammatical fixes but at this point it is what it is.

Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member

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> On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> I don't get to make unilateral changes to motions after they have been adopted.
> 
> The deny/denies was clearly a grammatical error, as a subject/verb disagreement, and we were able to run the "without objection" question with only a one-day delay from the main motion.  Even then it was on the same time schedule as the other amendment so that by midnight tonight we'd know the final wording.
> 
> This requested change from "for" to "to" is more of a stylistic preference rather than an error, though I agree that "to" would probably be the more commonly used preposition.  If it's important to change it, we'll have to wait another 10 days before the wording of the motion is finalized.
> 
> Daniel is one of the co-sponsors, so what do the other 4 co-sponsors say about the requested change?  If the co-sponsors want to change it, I'll put it on a 10-day hold to ask permission for the change.
> 
> In the future, let's please sort out all these editorial details before voting starts.
> 
> -Alicia
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 4:56 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>> Alicia, this seems to have passed 12-3 by my count as I believe the threshold for resolutions is by a three-fourths vote.  Assuming it did and if the amendment fails I would ask the following grammatical correction be made to the text if there is no objection. We should replace the preposition "for" found in the fourth clause in the phrase "restricting access for firearms and ammunition" with "to". It should then read  "restricting access to firearms and ammunition" 
>> This correction would be in addition to the correction already made of "deny" to "denies" in the third clause so that it would read as follows:
>> 
>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human right;
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due process and denies the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and restricting access to firearms and ammunition and may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>> 
>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any policy which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for being placed on any government watch or no-fly list and reaffirms its call to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed firearm and ammunition regulations.
>> 
>> 
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 03:49 PM, James Lark <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear colleagues:
>>> 
>>>     I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "aye" on the motion.
>>> 
>>>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
>>> 
>>>     Take care,
>>>     Jim
>>> 
>>>     James W. Lark, III
>>>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>>>     University of Virginia
>>> 
>>>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> -----
>>> 
>>>> On 8/12/2016 11:40 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>  
>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by August 22, 2016 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>>>>  
>>>> Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein, Vohra
>>>>  
>>>> Motion:  
>>>> 
>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human right;
>>>> 
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition;
>>>> 
>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due process and deny the legitimacy of “victimless crimes”;
>>>> 
>>>> WHEREAS, the government has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and restricting access for firearms and ammunition and may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of their inherent right to full self-defense by denying their civil and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition;
>>>> 
>>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any policy which would deny access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for being placed on any government watch or no-fly list and reaffirms its call to repeal and oppose any existing or proposed firearm and ammunition regulations.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Alicia
>>>> 
>>>> 
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