[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-04: Amend Gun Rights Resolution

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If it did not work that way we could always get around the 3/4 vote by simply replacing an old public policy resolution with a new one.

Aaron Starr

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> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Joshua, that makes a lot of sense.
> 
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> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>> RONR states that ASPA takes a majority with notice, 2/3, or q majority of the entire membership. However, it also states (don't have the book with me so I can't give the exact words ) that the vote required for ASPA is at least what was required to adopt originally. Our SRO increasing the vote threshold, then, carries with it ASPA.
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2016 4:06 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Alicia, I have a request for information.  It does not affect this, but it is for my education.  Does a motion to amend something previously adopted require the same 3/4?  Is there a Robert's reference for that?  Again, it doesn't matter here since it failed even by a simple majority, but I would like to know for future reference.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Voting has ended for the email ballot shown below.
>>>> 
>>>> Voting "aye":  Demarest, Harlos, Hayes, Lark, Starchild, Vohra
>>>>  
>>>> Voting "nay":  Bilyeu, Bittner, Goldstein, Hagan, Katz, Marsh, Mattson, McKnight, Starr
>>>> 
>>>> With a final vote tally of 6-9, the motion did not meet the 3/4 vote threshold required by Bylaws Article 7.11 to adopt public policy resolutions, so it FAILS.
>>>> 
>>>> For 10 days there has been no objection to correcting the deny/denies grammatical error in the original version of email ballot 2016-03, so that has been approved.
>>>> 
>>>> -Alicia
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by August 23, 2016 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Co-Sponsors:  Starchild, Vohra, Harlos, Demarest
>>>>>  
>>>>> Motion:  amend the resolution adopted in Email Ballot 2016-03 as follows: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEREAS, Libertarians affirm that self-defense is an inherent human right; and
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party opposes all laws at any level of government restricting, registering, or monitoring the ownership, manufacture, or transfer of firearms or ammunition; and
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEREAS, the Platform of the Libertarian Party affirms the right of due process and denydenies the legitimacy of laws against “victimless "crimes”; and
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEREAS, the governments in the United States have has steadily encroached upon these rights by illegitimately regulating and restricting access for to firearms and ammunition and may further seek to deprive people who have been convicted of no crime of their inherent right to full abrogate civil rights, and indeed the basic human right, to self-defense by prohibiting access denying their civil and inherent rights to obtain firearms and ammunition even in cases where a person has not been convicted of any crime; and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> WHEREAS some recent statements by Libertarian candidates appearing in the media have the potential to cause confusion among members of the public regarding how Libertarians view these issues;
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee opposes any law or policy which would deny or restrict any person's access to any firearms or ammunition to any person simply for being placed as a result of their name appearing on any a government watch or no-fly list, and reaffirms its call to repeal both our party's opposition to any further and oppose any existing or proposed regulations on firearms and ammunition as described above and our demand that all such existing regulations be repealed, and calls upon Libertarian candidates to uphold our party's pro-freedom stance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Alicia
>>>> 
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>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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