[Lnc-business] Contract with campaign?

Sat Aug 27 15:55:28 EDT 2016

If something a little more specific and not left so open-ended were
proposed by the Bylaws Committee it might have passed.  Speaking for my
particular POV and those like me, we rallied against it because it could be
used in the future to exclude candidates like Darryl Perry which
unfortunately is a sentiment, and I for one, would never vote for such a
thing.  I would love to see the next Bylaws Committee come up with
something that removed that danger, and it would have my enthusiastic
support and likely the support of those that I find myself in ideological
alignment with.

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This entire ordeal is why the Bylaws Committee proposed a pre-convention
> contract signing requirement to be
> nominated.  The delegates didn't see it our way and we will be stuck with
> the same problem again in 2020.
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 Phone
> 317-582-1773 Fax
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of the contract.   Is there something in there that says the
>> candidate should be telling people they are the LIBERTARIAN PARTY
>> Presidential candidate at every opportunity they can.  Maybe also that 95%
>> or more of their campaign literature and their media make it clear that
>> they are the Libertarian Party candidate for President and not some
>> independent?
>>
>>
>> I know a lot of people talk about branding.  If we provide something to
>> you to with the expectation that one of the things you do is promote our
>> brand that you think is worth 10 million dollars you should be doing that
>> every chance you get.  If instead you often say, you are the third Party or
>> that you are Independent, that is not promoting the brand that gave you a
>> platform.
>>
>> Throw in that in some places our candidate IS on the ballot as an
>> independent because it's cheaper or just not possible to be on as a
>> Libertarian and we have a bigger loss of value to the Party.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully this election frees up money in other places going forward and
>> we put a greater emphasis on making sure WE promote not just our
>> Presidential candidate but our brand in all 50 states.
>> Also, I hope that we do a better job of making sure the person designated
>> a spokesman for us at least speaks of us OFTEN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Nick... look forward to further updates.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Our attorney is still in contact with their attorney and we are told
>>> that there is a revised version that we should get soon.  It is not
>>> proceeding as quickly as I prefer.
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Is there any word?  A few members of my region have inquired.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > In Liberty,
>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona,
>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Sam Goldstein <
>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Mom, are we there yet?  I gotta pee.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sam Goldstein
>>> >> Libertarian National Committee
>>> >> Member at Large
>>> >> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>> >> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>> >> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>> >> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you Nick.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Nicholas J. Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> No change at present.  Our attorney continues to reach out to the
>>> >>>> campaign to get it finalized, but that has not been successful yet.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In related news, he will be working on a memo with advice for state
>>> >>>> affiliates on the pros and cons of joining the joint fundraising
>>> committee.
>>> >>>> The LNC has not joined that committee yet and it is not my intent
>>> to do so
>>> >>>> in advance of a contract with the campaign being completed.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -Nick
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 2:12 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I am assuming this remains the same?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> In Liberty,
>>> >>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington) -
>>> >>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Thank you Nick.  Is there any anticipated time frame or anything
>>> else
>>> >>>>> other than "no we don't have one" that I can tell inquiring
>>> members?   Are
>>> >>>>> there any planned updates to be given to LNC members, even if under
>>> >>>>> privilege?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington) -
>>> >>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> We still do not have a contract.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> -Nick
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> > Is there any update?
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>> >>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>>>> > Arizona,
>>> >>>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> >>>>>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> >>>>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> > <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >> Thank you.  I was asked.
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <
>>> chair at lp.org>
>>> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> Not yet.
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> -Nick
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> >>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Has a contract been signed?
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> > --
>>> >>>>>> >>> > In Liberty,
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> (Alaska,
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Arizona,
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington) -
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> > _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>>>> >>> > Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> >>> > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> >>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>>>> >>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >> --
>>> >>>>>> >> In Liberty,
>>> >>>>>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> (Alaska,
>>> >>>>>> >> Arizona,
>>> >>>>>> >> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> >>>>>> >> Caryn.Ann.
>>> >>>>>> >> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>>> >> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>>> >> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > --
>>> >>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>> >>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>>>> > Arizona,
>>> >>>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> >>>>>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> >>>>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> > Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>>>> > Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --
>>> >>>>> In Liberty,
>>> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington) -
>>> >>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> --
>>> >>>> In Liberty,
>>> >>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> >>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>> Washington) -
>>> >>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> In Liberty,
>>> >>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona,
>>> >>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> >>> Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> >>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> >>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> >> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> >> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > In Liberty,
>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona,
>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Harlos at lp.org>
>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Lnc-business mailing list
>>> > Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> > http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>> >
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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