[Lnc-business] Results of Doodle

Fri Sep 16 16:41:58 EDT 2016

If it won't, I would hope that those who can't make it will let us know,
and by so doing cancel the meeting.  I can say that only one person posted
on the list saying they couldn't make it, and that same person did vote in
the Doodle.  After that, we learned about the Chair's conflict, and the
others on this thread.

Joshua A. Katz
Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:

>
> While the meeting can be called by 1/3rd, per the policy manual, the
> quorum requirement still exists in order to do business. That's the reason
> why I asked.  I was just curious to find out how well attended this meeting
> will be, and if it will make quorum.
>
> ---
>
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
>
>
>
> On 2016-09-16 15:15, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Point of Information: the Policy Manual sets the precedent by stating a
> meeting can be called by 1/3.  If we would like our rules to be 1/2 we need
> to change the Policy Manual.
>
> On Friday, September 16, 2016, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There has been so much traffic on this meeting in several different
>> threads that I am confused.  I get
>> that the proposed date is Sept. 25th.  Was a time, duration and agenda
>> (or suggested agenda) set?
>>
>> Since this effort will set a precedent for a non-scheduled meeting called
>> for by a minority of the LNC membership,
>> I'd like to make sure we have a good idea of what we will be about before
>> committing my time.  Especially since
>> our Chair has stated that he cannot attend on that date.
>>
>> Live Free,
>>
>>
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> Member at Large
>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can.
>>>
>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>> Region 7 Rep
>>>
>>> On Sep 16, 2016 1:13 PM, "Ken Moellman" <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can we find out who can attend this meeting?
>>>>
>>>> It sounds as though Region 3 will not be able to attend.  Mr. Bittner
>>>> has a packed schedule that weekend and cannot attend, and I fly for
>>>> work early on Monday morning (Eastern Time) making a late conference call
>>>> unreasonable.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that we have also heard that our Chairman would not be in
>>>> attendance, as well.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-09-15 23:45, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are now six LNC members requesting this meeting (the 1/3
>>>> threshold is reached).
>>>>
>>>> Katz, Hayes, Harlos, Demarest, McKnight, and Hewitt.
>>>>
>>>> Will the Chair please set the meeting?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:06 PM, hdigger2004 <hdigger2004 at aol.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also request the teleconference on Sept. 25th. Jeff Hewitt Region 4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Patrick McKnight <patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 9/15/2016 6:15 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Results of Doodle
>>>>>
>>>>> I also request the above mentioned teleconference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>> Region 8 Rep
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2016 2:18 PM, "Joshua Katz" <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> To be clear, I wasn't asking the Chair to override the LNC and call a
>>>>>> meeting.  My comments are directed to the LNC as a whole, not you.  If
>>>>>> we're not going to meet, it would be nice to at least have a few members
>>>>>> perhaps weigh in as to why email ballots - which basically exist, so far as
>>>>>> I can tell, because in the past the technology for synchronous meetings
>>>>>> didn't exist - are a better way to resolve this question, given the
>>>>>> parliamentary constraints I mentioned this morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I don't think I'll get 6 requstors.  Given that, what is the
>>>>>> feeling about an informal teleconference at which no business is discussed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Four members of the LNC have requested an online meeting on
>>>>>>> September 25.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I anticipate flying to New York on that day, since there's something
>>>>>>> happening on Long Island the day after, but my personal availability
>>>>>>> should not be the deciding factor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The bigger concern I have with calling a meeting is that only 4 out
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> 25 members and alternates have indicated a desire for one.  If a
>>>>>>> majority of the committee wants a meeting, I'll call one.  If not, I
>>>>>>> won't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Nick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:23 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > The Chair has asked us to approve via email the budget increases.
>>>>>>> I believe
>>>>>>> > an actual deliberative meeting is the appropriate way to handle
>>>>>>> and urge
>>>>>>> > others to join this request.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona,
>>>>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> > Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Sunday, September 11, 2016, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> This message is sent to note that the Policy Manual states in
>>>>>>> Section 1.01
>>>>>>> >> (2) that the Chair shall set the agenda for all LNC sessions. The
>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>> >> proposing a meeting are to only suggest the topics, per Section
>>>>>>> 1.02 (7)(e).
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> To that end, I would suggest to the chair that the agenda be
>>>>>>> structured in
>>>>>>> >> a way where committee transparency comes before committee
>>>>>>> population.  I
>>>>>>> >> suggest this because some may make a decision on where and how to
>>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>> >> based on the rules, and if the rules are changing, it might be
>>>>>>> good to get
>>>>>>> >> the rule changes down first.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I personally still believe that we need an in-person meeting to
>>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>>> >> the details of the transparency proposal in an efficient manner.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> And Section 1.03 (1) says the IT Committee is populated by the
>>>>>>> LNC chair,
>>>>>>> >> not the LNC itself.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ---
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>>>> >> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>>>> >> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On 2016-09-11 18:11, Joshua Katz wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> For reference, here is the request I am referencing:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I am seeking co-requesters for a teleconference meeting to be held
>>>>>>> >> Saturday, September 24, 2016, at 5PM Pacific - 7PM Pacific.  I am
>>>>>>> happy to
>>>>>>> >> adjust date and time if needed; I'm basing this off my memory and
>>>>>>> Caryn's
>>>>>>> >> assistance.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The agenda items would be as follows:
>>>>>>> >> Amend Something Previously Adopted - Budget
>>>>>>> >> Populating Committees
>>>>>>> >> Transparency for Committees
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The items would be in that order, and there would be, I hope, a 2
>>>>>>> hour
>>>>>>> >> hard stop.  (According to some recent research, a 72 minute hard
>>>>>>> stop would
>>>>>>> >> be better, but that's not realistic.)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> It is my belief that these items, particularly the budget item,
>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> >> dealt with fairly easily at such a meeting if we do the spadework
>>>>>>> here, and
>>>>>>> >> might possibly be questions that come out differently at such a
>>>>>>> meeting vs.
>>>>>>> >> email.  In other words, I think they would profit from real-time
>>>>>>> discussion
>>>>>>> >> and deliberation.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Furthermore, there was a request to assign times to items.  My
>>>>>>> proposal is
>>>>>>> >> below.  None of these are intended as special orders; rather, I
>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>> >> times simply to indicate the time to be allocated to each item.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> 5:00 - 5:05 Pacific:  Credentialing and housekeeping
>>>>>>> >> 5:05 - 6:05:  Amend Something Previously Adopted - Budget
>>>>>>> >> 6:05 - 6:25:  Populating Committees
>>>>>>> >> 6:25 - 6:45:  Transparency for Committees
>>>>>>> >> 6:45 - 7:00:  Public comment and announcements
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> It is my hope that less time will be needed than this and that
>>>>>>> we'll end
>>>>>>> >> early.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>> >> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> There were 6 votes cast.  There were no dates receiving 6 votes,
>>>>>>> but the
>>>>>>> >>> 25th (Sunday) had 5 votes, which was the most.  Therefore, I am
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> >>> seeking co-requesters for the 25th.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>> >>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona,
>>>>>>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> > Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
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>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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