[Lnc-business] filtering requests from the membership

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Alicia, I strongly, but respectfully, disagree.  The number of members who
actually try to get something heard is infrequent.  If there were a deluge,
you would have a point, and then I would encourage stricter minimum
standards to be in place but there isn’t.   And yes, I do think Regional
Representatives (I think differently of Officers) DO have an obligation to
bring forth motions asked by members (there can be some minimum bars) even
if they do not support it.  I will ALWAYS follow that rule and it was a
promise I made to my region, and they elected me on it.  If it got to be so
much that this was even a concern on time, I would set stricter bars.  But
each motion I have brought has had merit, and I supported each one.



On the one brought by Patrick, I believe ten members *who took the time to
organize a county chapter* meets a minimum bar.  I would love it if ten
members routinely wrote me to ask for things.  Most of the membership
ignores the LNC for a reason, and it isn’t a flattering one in most cases.
I intend to engage the membership in my region and change that.



Just like Arvin was perfectly justified in bringing that motion to
disqualify Weld at the post-convention LNC meeting though he didn’t support
it.



As far as the RONR section, that is about speaking against.  And that is a
point well taken.  I will not speak against any motion I bring.



I long for the day when we have the problem of having such an engaged
membership that we are beset with daily motions.  That is quite obviously
not a problem we have.


-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:

> If the LNC took the time to meet, debate, and vote on every idea that some
> member somewhere has, we'd be meeting every day.  I do not think LNC
> members are obligated to put forward a motion that they don't even support
> just because one person asked them to.  I think part of the job of being on
> the LNC is understanding what things are or are not productive uses of our
> time.  It's not just about the time of the person putting forth the motion,
> but it is the time of 16 other LNC members, plus 8 alternates, and
> potentially some staff.  Sometimes it is our job to thank the person for
> the suggestion but politely reject an idea brought to us.
>
> If you think an idea actually has broader support among the membership
> than just ten people, and you think it is the right way to address a
> situation, and you think it is important enough to make 30 people spend
> time on it, then fine, make a motion.  But don't bring us clutter that you
> don't even favor.
>
> RONR, 11th ed. p. 393:
>
> "REFRAINING FROM SPEAKING AGAINST ONE'S OWN MOTION. In debate, the maker
> of a motion, while he can vote against it, is not allowed to speak against
> his own motion. He need not speak at all, but if he does he is obliged to
> take a favorable position. If he changes his mind while the motion he made
> is pending, he can, in effect, advise the assembly of this by asking
> permission to withdraw the motion (pp. 295–97)."
>
> Motions should be made by people who favor the idea, and who intend to
> support the motion unless debate later changes their mind.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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