[Lnc-business] Motion to assist funding LPKY legal actions - KET - seeking cosponsors

Sat Sep 24 09:06:18 EDT 2016

Same here.  It appears the money has been allocated, just not spent. I
withdraw my co-sponsorship.

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*Caryn Ann Harlos*
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Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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On Saturday, September 24, 2016, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org> wrote:

> With the funds already allocated, I also withdraw my sponsorship of the
> motion on KET legal activity.
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
> Region 3 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> brett.bittner at lp.org
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> 317.643.2566
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> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>
> On Sep 24, 2016 08:23, "Joshua Katz" <planning4liberty at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> In light of the minutes posted from 2014, I'm going to withdraw my
>> sponsorship of this.  It seems to me we have the money allocated.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ken.moellman at lpky.org');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sam, Joshua, et al -
>>>
>>> Before I brought the motion for the KET case, I had the same question
>>> and asked the attorney to please tell me if any further expenses were
>>> expected.  He confirmed that we should not have any more costs, unless and
>>> until such time as the case would go to a jury.  Given the speed of the
>>> case, I don't see that happening for a year or better, if it ever became
>>> necessary at all.
>>>
>>> I do not recall if the original allocation was done via motion, but I'd
>>> think it would have had to have been. The LNC-pledged amount of $5000, made
>>> in September 2014, was based on a request made by me, in my previous role
>>> as LPKY chair, given the information we had at the time. Since then, LPKY
>>> covered the initial round of additional costs.  The costs incurred in the
>>> past month were the result of depositions that were not
>>> originally anticipated in the 2014 ask.
>>>
>>> One of two outcomes are being sought, but I don't know if I'm supposed
>>> to publicize it (I don't want to do anything that could harm the case).  If
>>> anyone has questions about the case, I would be happy to give you those
>>> answers with the OK of the attorney. Alternately, I can put you in direct
>>> contact with the attorney and he'd probably be willing to do a conference
>>> call in Executive Session with the LNC.  It is my understand that Oliver
>>> Hall is also up to speed on this case, and may be able to provide legal
>>> information.
>>>
>>>
>>> ken
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-09-23 16:43, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> Is there any estimate of the cost of this lawsuit?  I'd hate for the LNC
>>> to commit to continuous
>>> legal fee for years to come.  What would be the best outcome for the
>>> LPKY and the LNC?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> Member at Large
>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll move this, assuming I can get cosponsors, but I'm curious how it
>>>> is that the LNC committed to $5,000, costs ran high, and the LNC
>>>> contributed only $2,500.  We committed via a motion, correct?
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ken.moellman at lpky.org');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *I am requesting co-sponsors for the following motion:*
>>>>> *The LNC will allocate and send to LPKY's attorney, Chris Wiest,
>>>>>  $7000 to cover costs in the KET case.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *KET*
>>>>>
>>>>> LPKY has been involved in litigation against KET (Kentucky Educational
>>>>> Television) since late 2014.  KET had changed their criteria 5 or 6 times
>>>>> throughout the election cycle, but made clear well before the final version
>>>>> of the criteria were adopted, that the Libertarian candidate (Patterson)
>>>>> would not be invited to the KET debate/forum based on that criteria (that
>>>>> kept changing to make sure of that).
>>>>>
>>>>> Originally, as the case was filed, the LNC had committed to $5,000,
>>>>> LPKY had committed to $2,500, and the Patterson campaign had committed to
>>>>> $1,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> What was actually contributed was $2500 from the LNC, $4750 from LPKY,
>>>>> and $1000 from the Patterson campaign.
>>>>>
>>>>> The case was converted to a civil trial.  It was agreed upon that, if
>>>>> we win, any blanket award is to be split up according to contribution
>>>>> levels by each organization.  The case stalled out as KET's attorneys keep
>>>>> playing games and the judge is slow. Basically, they're trying to wear us
>>>>> down, and they definitely don't want the public to know what they've done.
>>>>>
>>>>> The case has recently has racked up serious deficits in costs related
>>>>> to depositions, including transcription costs and travel to DC for a
>>>>> particular deposition, copying, etc.  This is costs, not attorney fees or
>>>>> time.  The bill includes $12,056.15 in recent Court reporter invoices alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fund for this case is now $7,000 in the hole.  If this case is to
>>>>> continue, it needs immediate financial assistance.  We expect that
>>>>> additional funding won't be necessary until such time that we actually get
>>>>> to a trial. Given the speed at which this case has been occurring, it is
>>>>> likely to be a year before any additional funding would be requested.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, it is requested that $7000 be allocated from the LNC to the
>>>>> KET case.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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