[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract Authority

[Sam Goldstein]

I think this motion was just mooted by the Chair's email tonight.

Sam

Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
Member at Large
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> I vote No
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large member
>
> On Sep 25, 2016, at 08:17 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Because I thoughtlessly put my vote at the bottom, I will repeat it.  I
> vote no.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We gave the chair binding authority to negotiate and execute a contract.
>> Negotiation, naturally, is just that.  You don't get everything you want
>> because both sides of a negotiation want to get things.  Asking someone to
>> negotiate for you is asking them to navigate those trade-offs for you, to
>> make these decisions.  I don't think we should have done that.  When we
>> were waiting for a contract, I would have supported a rescission - not
>> because I thought the chair was doing a bad job or I was worried about the
>> terms, but because the long wait suggested to me that there was a
>> stalemate, and sometimes you can break a stalemate by putting in a new
>> person.
>>
>> That isn't what we're talking about here, though.  Instead, after giving
>> this task to the chair, this is an effort to turn around when the task is
>> done and criticize the priorities chosen and decisions made and say "you
>> could have gotten a better deal without giving anything up."  How do we
>> know that?  We don't, but we'd be banking on it, because if not, we're not
>> going to get a new deal anytime soon.
>>
>> I find it very aggravating that we pushed this task onto the chair, and
>> now want to say "you should have done it differently."  I also see no plan
>> for what will come next here.  Do we select a new negotiator?  What if the
>> LNC doesn't like what they come back with, either?  Surely no one expects
>> this entire body to negotiate a contract, which is not too many cook
>> spoiling the broth - it's 20 cooks trying to flip a pancake.
>>
>> I vote no.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Or just have a contract without the secrecy provision. I don't think the
>>> campaign is going to want to spend these four or five weeks resisting
>>> having a signed contract because they demand secrecy on a document which,
>>> if it isn't signed, they would have no guarantee would not be publicly
>>> released anyway. Especially because we've seen no evidence that they
>>> *are* demanding secrecy. It seems quite possible there was just some
>>> legal boilerplate text put in or something.
>>>
>>> Yes, I guess I am saying pass it so that we can see what's in it!    :-(
>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>                                ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>                             (415) 625-FREE
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:15 AM, Aaron Starr wrote:
>>>
>>> I vote No.
>>>
>>> If this motion were to be adopted, we will have no contract at all. The
>>> campaign is not going to spend the last four or five weeks of this election
>>> cycle trying to negotiate a contract with seventeen people.
>>>
>>> Aaron Starr
>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>
>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Alicia Mattson
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 11:20 PM
>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-10: Rescind Contract
>>> Authority
>>>
>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 3, 2016 at 11:59:59pm
>>> Pacific time.*
>>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Hayes, Starchild, Demarest
>>>
>>> *Motion:*  to rescind the authority granted to the Chair to negotiate
>>> and execute a campaign contract and the Joint Fundraising Agreement and
>>> rescind any signatures already executed.
>>> -Alicia
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>>>
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