[Lnc-business] discussion on variant of UMP

Sat Oct 8 17:34:42 EDT 2016

Awesome, glad to find a kindred spirit on this.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:

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> Absolutely.  Please do.  This has been a desire of mine for years.
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> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
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> On 2016-10-08 17:31, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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> Ken, may I include you in a future discussion group?  You are thinking
> along the lines that I am.
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> wrote:
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>> While I was state chair, I was a vocal proponent of what I had called a
>> "Single Check Out" program.  I was previously told that this is not an
>> option due to FEC regulations.
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>> Discussions within the still-forming IT committee are already looking
>> into this, because others also see value in such a concept.  If it is
>> legal, I strongly support a Single Check Out system. It is to the benefit
>> of both the national and state affiliate to have a single place to sign up
>> for one or both organizations.
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>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
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>> On 2016-10-08 17:18, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>> I think it is a discussion that needs to be had, even if periodically.
>> Again, I am planning on discussing this in depth with folks in November.
>> It might be a non-starter, but this comes up regularly among members, and
>> we look towards growth and retention in this very unusual year I think it
>> deserves another look.
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>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Starchild - in addition, we can't send out checks to affiliates in many
>>> cases, so doing it that way isn't really a possibility anymore.
>>> Personally, I think the concern that national is going to steal affiliate
>>> money is overblown, but regardless, that program can't exist.  I think it's
>>> relatively easy to do the automation you speak, with no need to outsource
>>> the work.  That, at least, is my impression.
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>>> But that's all an implementation question.  A lot comes before that,
>>> such as if we want something like that at all, how it should be structured,
>>> how to divide up responsibilities between state and national, how the
>>> division should look, etc.  For those things, I think Caryn Ann's
>>> suggestion is a good one.
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
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>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> This comes up periodically, and I totally understand why. My sense is
>>>> that most members would like a system that lets you join all levels of the
>>>> party (national/state/local) with one form and one payment. But I think
>>>> many grassroots activists are justifiably wary of a system that sends all
>>>> the money to national and then relies on staff to send out checks to state
>>>> and local affiliates. Ideal would be a system that automatically divvies up
>>>> funds collected according to where they're supposed to go and disperses
>>>> them simultaneously to all levels of the party, so no level would be
>>>> dependent on another level doing its job properly. I wonder whether it's
>>>> possible to totally automate something like that, or whether the work could
>>>> be outsourced at a reasonable cost to someone whose sole focus was this
>>>> sort of payment transfers (as opposed to just one of many hats staff are
>>>> wearing).
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>                                    ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>                                  (415) 625-FREE
>>>>
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>>>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have had a few members bring up the UMP (Unified Membership Program)
>>>> to me over the past few months.  A few would like to see something like
>>>> that re-instituted.  I don't want to waste time here with half-baked
>>>> proposals but I am planning on getting an informal group of members
>>>> together to discuss in November.  If anyone here would like to be part of
>>>> this discussion group please let me know.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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