[Lnc-business] Motion: Assemblyman Moore - request for co-sponsors

Demarest, David P. David.Demarest at firstdata.com
Fri Oct 21 16:05:08 EDT 2016


Ken,

Thank you for your honest and thoughtful devil’s advocate response regarding the proposed censure of John Moore. We can, however, view Assemblyman Moore’s two egregious votes as an golden opportunity for LNC members to think outside the box to examine root causes and design short and long term solutions to the difficult dilemma faced by all Libertarian politicians. The dilemma is how to reconcile the dictates of one’s Libertarian conscience with the realities of our current political environment that is rife with the cronyism necessary to get elected or reelected. The choice is between voting your conscience at the risk of not being reelected or violating your conscience to get reelected and live to fight another day in office.

I would submit that Moore’s violation of his conscience to get reelected makes him part of the problem of spiraling cronyism that is inexorably destroying our way of life and accelerating our economy and society down the path of destruction that history demonstrates is the inevitable fate of all compulsory territorial governments. Most of us support Gary Johnson in spite of specific misgivings because it is obvious that Gary is so much better than the other choices and would undoubtedly make things far better than the other candidates. If Johnson is elected, however, we know that despite his honestly about his platform, many of his decisions will give us heartburn. Our short-term act of censuring Moore will send a clear and unambiguous message that statist actions by Libertarian officials to save political seats are unacceptable violations of conscience that will not be tolerated. The proposed censure of Moore will serve as an educational message for all present and future Libertarian officials including those who switch from other parties.

Long-term solutions require that we understand that cronyism does not fare well in the competitive context of the free-market. By contrast, cronyism is aggressively fostered in our current compulsory authoritarian majority rule system. We as Libertarians face an uphill battle if we choose to rely solely on a top-down legislative authoritarian approach to rescue us from the tsunami of cronyism that will swamp our ship of state if we do not reverse course promptly and with a sense of urgency.

The crushing curse of cronyism will not be reversed until we change the context of government to minimize instead of fostering cronyism. To get straight to the point, that change in context to discourage cronyism will not occur until we achieve competitive governance and competitive social services. I would further submit that we must supplement our top-down legislative strategy with a robust, bottom-up entrepreneurial peaceful freedom revolution fueled by peer-to-peer technology. Then and only then will we create the political climate necessary to elect Libertarian officials to all levels of government and establish the environment of competitive governance and social services that is an absolute prerequisite if we seriously intend to minimize cronyism and save our way of life for future generations.

Thoughts?

The War on Majority Rule Authoritarian Cronyism Begins Now

~David Pratt Demarest
Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
Secretary Pro Tem, LNC Affiliate Support Committee
Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus

From: Caryn Ann Harlos [mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:50 PM
To: ken.moellman at lpky.org; lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Cc: William Redpath; Demarest, David P.
Subject: Re: Motion: Assemblyman Moore - request for co-sponsors

We have enough cosponsors for a ballot.  I will argue for it in the ballot.

It was an LPNV who last broached this action
with me - I believe it has the support of the aggrieved affiliate - and members- who's money we spent.

The second vote was expressly against something the LPNV was opposed to actively for years.

This is a betrayal of the LPNV.  And I certainly did not vote (and I argued zealously) to support a candidate - out of many worthy candidates - who would take such crony capitalist anti/libertarian power.

On Friday, October 21, 2016, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org<mailto:ken.moellman at lpky.org>> wrote:


Please allow me to take the Devil's Advocate position, since I probably won't have a vote that counts anyway.  I realize that this position is unlikely to be popular.

Politics and philosophy can be a tough balancing act.  Certainly, there are instances of this problem with our presidential ticket (bake the cake, for example) and probably every other campaign out there (vaccination debate, etc.).  Elected officials, and indeed individuals, are faced with tough decisions between philosophy and reality all the time.  Perhaps the most famous was Jefferson's opposition to slavery while also owning slaves.



Assemblyman Moore reported that a poll of the constituents of his district showed that about 60% of the constituents supported the deal, including the associated taxes. Certainly, there could and should have been a coordinated effort by the opposition to stop this deal by educating the public. Based on the level of support reported within Assemblyman Moore's district, those efforts were obviously unsuccessful.

Even taking what was said above into account, I personally think Assemblyman Moore's greatest failing in this situation came was in how he supported the deal.  A statement about "While I personally do not support this deal, I voted in favor because my constituents wanted me to do so" could have been a very good moment.  It would have provided an opportunity to educate the public about the negatives of the deal and hopefully prevent this type of situation from happening the next time.



So I ask these questions:  Do you think that what John Moore did was driven by philosophy, or by politics?  Do you believe that John Moore wanted higher taxes?  As an elected representative, should he represent the people of his district, or ignore those people in favor of his own philosophy?  Is it more wise to go against the constituency, especially this close to election day, or is it more wise to fight another day when your "army" is more organized and can help you win the day?

Just something to think about.  I'm not pleased at the idea of yet another billionaire getting a taxpayer-funded stadium and I don't believe they create enough economic activity to offset the costs.  At least the team name is appropriate.

---

Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
LPKY Judicial Committee



On 2016-10-21 09:27, William Redpath wrote:
I will also co-sponsor, as I was opposed to the $10,000 motion at the LNC meeting in July 2016.  Bill Redpath
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On Thu, 10/20/16, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dpdemarest at centurylink.net');>> wrote:

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 Date: Thursday, October 20, 2016, 9:20 PM

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 #yiv9175739729 Caryn, I will co-sponsor your
 motion to censure John Moore and request that he return the
 $10,000 campaign contribution from the LNC. Mr. Moore's
 two votes were egregious.   Thoughts?  Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High
 and LIVE FREE!  The Invisible Hand of
 Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of
 Government! ~David Pratt Demaresthttp://www.lpne.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.lpne.org&d=CwMFaQ&c=ewHkv9vLloTwhsKn5d4bTdoqsmBfyfooQX5O7EQLv5TtBZ1CwcvjU063xndfqI8U&r=POfq57_C0OM3236VPm9_N_9MhP1EEP_0raNPnh6qDnw&m=IV7aAHavSnzME6gqttSJKf9UdcwCKTeGCnzR9X5ehTM&s=ZPO-4J67vwV6ByD7vb8knOZpRMrndul0DsYJwqVwT_0&e=>
 secretary at lpne.orgdpdemarest<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','secretary at lpne.orgdpdemarest');>@centurylink.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__centurylink.net&d=CwMFaQ&c=ewHkv9vLloTwhsKn5d4bTdoqsmBfyfooQX5O7EQLv5TtBZ1CwcvjU063xndfqI8U&r=POfq57_C0OM3236VPm9_N_9MhP1EEP_0raNPnh6qDnw&m=IV7aAHavSnzME6gqttSJKf9UdcwCKTeGCnzR9X5ehTM&s=37Lwyhxfp0qUBXRvtP01RB9aT0NWx-ASCm0rjSNqLTk&e=>
 david.demarest at firstdata.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','david.demarest at firstdata.com');>
 Cell: 402-981-6469Home: 402-493-0873Office: 402-222-7207  From: Lnc-business
 [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org');>] On Behalf Of
 Caryn Ann Harlos
 Sent: Thursday,
 October 20, 2016 7:45 PM
 To:
 lnc-business at hq.lp.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business at hq.lp.org');>
 Subject:
 [Lnc-business] Motion: Assemblyman Moore - request for
 co-sponsors
  Multiple
 party members including region 1 members have acted that the
 LNC take action regarding Assemblyman Moore. While normally,
 I would say that is solely an issue for the state party to
 handle, unless possibly, a Federal candidate, but in this
 case, we spent National Party member's direct monies,
 and thus I do agree this is our responsibility.  As someone
 who advocated for the funds allocation, I believe it is my
 responsibility to address this once members raised a
 concern:
  Whereas Nevada Assemblyman John
 Moore, a former Republican who in January 2016 switched to
 the Libertarian Party while in office, has during the past
 month voted not once but twice in the span of as many days
 to raise taxes on his constituents, including a vote to
 support a "More Cops" tax which the Libertarian
 Party of Nevada has tirelessly and thus far successfully
 opposed, and a vote to provide a $750 million subsidy to
 finance a billionaire-owned sports stadium at the expense
 of, among others, indigent persons renting weekly rooms in
 motels; and  Whereas the elected leaders of our
 state affiliate party in Nevada have rightfully voted to
 censure Assemblyman Moore for these egregious votes;
 and  Whereas we wish to convey a strong
 message to all and sundry that while we welcome sitting
 legislators in the Republican or Democrat parties who
 decide to switch to the Libertarian Party as an act of
 conscience, we do not welcome them if they
 intend, as members of our party, to continue voting and
 acting like Republicans or Democrats;  Therefore be it resolved that the
 Libertarian National Committee hereby censures Assemblyman
 Moore for his recent votes in support of tax increases,
 requests that he return the $10,000 campaign contribution
 which the LNC this season voted to send him, and admonishes
 him to henceforward be a better champion of the values held
 by members of the political party with which he has chosen
 to affiliate if he intends to remain a
 Libertarian.
   --
 In
 Liberty,Caryn Ann
 HarlosRegion 1 Representative,
 Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado,
 Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
 Harlos at LP.orgCommunications<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Harlos at LP.orgCommunications');> Director, Libertarian Party of
 ColoradoColorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party
 Radical Caucus

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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
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