[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2016-15: Censure John Moore
Daniel Hayes
danielehayes at icloud.com
Sat Oct 22 03:41:49 EDT 2016
Yes
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large
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> On Oct 22, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am as upset as the rest of you about the two votes in question, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to vote yes on this motion.
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> Particularly on the stadium vote, Assemblyman Moore held the power of the deciding vote. Had he voted no, it would have failed instead of passing. We had a Libertarian in a position to make a big real-world difference, and it didn't happen. Facepalm.
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> IF it's true that his motivation was to play to his constituency in hopes of getting re-elected, I wonder how he will feel about the votes in hindsight in the event that he is not re-elected. What's the point of being there if you can't vote your conscience? That's why on the LNC I also vote the way I think I ought to vote even if other LNC members stage organized email campaigns from their friends. Should we be offended at a public official playing to his constituents if we do the same thing as party officials?
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> I have several issues with this motion. I particularly appreciate Mr. Moellman's questions, and I think we probably should have had a conversation with Mr. Moore before we flung a motion into the wind. I don't think it's sufficient to just hear how other people represent his position to us. We should get it straight from him.
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> I am not thrilled about the wording in this resolution. "...convey a strong message to all and sundry..." ? Who talks like that? We're discouraging others from switching to the LP until they completely agree with us? With which of us? Because we don't all agree, either. I probably would have added that his vote was effectively the deciding vote. Etc.
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> Censure is an action taken by a group against a member of that same group. Mr. Moore is not a member of the LNC. Have we even confirmed that he's a member of the national party? As of the national convention in May, our records did not yet indicate he had signed our membership certification. We know he switched his party registration in NV, but that doesn't make him a member of the national party. We wouldn't censure Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton because they're not members of the LNC or even the LP.
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> The state affiliate that nominated him has already censured him, so what does this accomplish for the LNC to pile on? We can't make him return the money. Is it just to make ourselves feel better? Is the LNC going to become the purity police that monitors every local/state/federal elected official and passes resolutions about them? I am concerned about starting such a trend.
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> If we hadn't already donated the funds, I'd vote to rescind that decision. That ship has sailed. I wouldn't vote to donate to him again. I'm not certain that this motion accomplishes anything productive.
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> -Alicia
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>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
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>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2016 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
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>> Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Demarest, Hayes, Vohra, Starchild, Goldstein, Redpath
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>> Motion:
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>> Whereas Nevada Assemblyman John Moore, a former Republican who in January 2016 switched to the Libertarian Party while in office, has during the past month voted not once but twice in the span of as many days to raise taxes on his constituents, including a vote to support a "More Cops" tax which the Libertarian Party of Nevada has tirelessly and thus far successfully opposed, and a vote to provide a $750 million subsidy to finance a billionaire-owned sports stadium at the expense of, among others, indigent persons renting weekly rooms in motels; and
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>> Whereas the elected leaders of our state affiliate party in Nevada have rightfully voted to censure Assemblyman Moore for these egregious votes; and
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>> Whereas we wish to convey a strong message to all and sundry that while we welcome sitting legislators in the Republican or Democrat parties who decide to switch to the Libertarian Party as an act of conscience, we do not welcome them if they intend, as members of our party, to continue voting and acting like Republicans or Democrats;
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>> Therefore be it resolved that the Libertarian National Committee hereby censures Assemblyman Moore for his recent votes in support of tax increases, requests that he return the $10,000 campaign contribution which the LNC this season voted to send him, and admonishes him to henceforward be a better champion of the values held by members of the political party with which he has chosen to affiliate if he intends to remain a Libertarian.
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>> -Alicia
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