[Lnc-business] Candidate contracts - legal advice?
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Oct 22 17:11:59 EDT 2016
Why else would they sign it? I believe that was implicit in Arvin's
scenario.
On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Where does the hypo say the voter promises support?
>
>
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 4:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> I believe the contact may be against public election policy if with the
>> voter, but there is consideration. The voter promises support IF the
>> candidate follows the pledge. Clear consideration. But I think this would
>> violate some election law, it just doesn't pass the gut test.
>>
>> Now as between the candidate and the LNC, I think that might be a
>> different matter.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the contract is unenforceable for want of consideration. The
>>> voter does not have their future actions constrained in any way, and so
>>> suffers no detriment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','votevohra at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago, we started doing candidate pledges. We basically based
>>>> them off the Norquist tax pledge, but made them about cutting government
>>>> instead not just not growing it. Some include sponsoring legislation to cut
>>>> spending to 1998 levels to eliminate the income tax, sponsoring legislation
>>>> to cut military spending by 60 percent, sponsoring legislation to repeal
>>>> the Patriot act, etc. The pledges are obviously voluntary.
>>>>
>>>> I've been considering advancing this from a pledge to a (voluntary)
>>>> contract. There are two versions I have considered so far:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The contract would be signed by the candidate, with any voter able
>>>> to act as a cosigner. The voter would download a signed pdf, sign it, and
>>>> that would put the contract into effect.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The contract would be between the candidate and the LNC.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike the pledge, the contract would have clear, defined, monetary
>>>> penalties. As in: "The candidate will oppose any tax increase for any
>>>> purpose, unless it is accompanied by a larger simultaneous tax decrease, or
>>>> will pay $10,000." Or something along those lines.
>>>>
>>>> Looking for legal and other input.
>>>>
>>>> -Arvin
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>>
>>>> www.VoteVohra.com
>>>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
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>>>> (301) 320-3634
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>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org');>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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*Caryn Ann Harlos*
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Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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