[Lnc-business] how to download old LP.org website
Wes Benedict
wes.benedict at lp.org
Fri Nov 18 14:33:12 EST 2016
Caryn Ann,
I understand why you are concerned about the potential loss of content
from the old LP.org website. I had the same concerns. My fear was that a
well intentioned new website rollout by the folks assigned to do it by
the LNC might run into problems and the assurance that the old content
would be preserved might get derailed and never finished or might get
put in a place that is forgotten about and hard even for me to access.
Here's what I did. You might want to try something similar. You never
know when various other accounts might get closed or backups might get
deleted. Thanks to former staffer Eric for teaching me how to do this.
Others might tell you this is an inelegant way to handle things--they
very well may be right. Do all of this at your own risk.
I've already got the program installed, so what you see may be different
than what I see.
I downloaded the HTTRACK software: https://www.httrack.com/
Start the program. Then click "Next" when I see this screen.
New project name: LP Colorado
Base path: navigate to a folder where you want the website to be
re-built on your hard drive. I used:
C:\Users\wes.LNC\Documents\lpcolorado
Then click next.
Web address: http://www.lpcolorado.org/
Click Next:
Click Finish:
You'll see stuff like this for about 5 to 30 minutes:
Then you'll see this. Click "Browse Mirrored Website"
You should see something like this. Notice the url address is actually
your c: drive, not the internet. The website is now built on your hard
drive. Not all of is will look right, but you can use the navigation
menu at the top to get to lots of things. :
When you exit it all, you can go back to the folder where the site is
stored. Click on index.html which will open up the version on your hard
drive again.
You can then try all that again with the old LP.org website, but I'll
warn you that it takes about 24 hours to work for that website because
there is so much content.
Also, there are problems with it. Sometimes when you click on a link,
instead of going to the URL on your hard drive, it will try to go to the
actual url on the web. You can trick it by seeing what the url it is
looking for, and modifying the path to be more like the ones that do
work right. That's an overly simple explanation. Be advised I'm learning
by doing and probably won't be able to assist you much at all if you run
into problems.
The old LP.org site was stored at least temporarily at: https://old.lp.org/
Note the "s" in the https:.
You're browser will probably tell you not to go to that site.
You may have to click something that says "Advanced" and then "Accept
Security Acception" just to get to the site.
Accept the security acception at your own risk.
Many of the links will not work as intended. The reason is some were
fixed urls, and others were relative. You can trick the fixed ones that
don't go to the right place. But I don't have time to explain that here.
Better I.T. people probably know a better solution for you, but they
might not get around to providing that solution to you.
Good luck.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
On 11/17/2016 1:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> And..... from a member:
>
> ===
> Since the LP website was updated, so many great articles from the past
> have been obliterated. Stuff from Mark Hinkle talking about different
> issues, the "Libertarians Versus Donald Trump" article that I linked
> to a lot throughout the election, a statement from 2015 or so making a
> case to allow in Iraqi refugees. Basically everything was wiped out of
> the archives (when trying to illustrate LP policy to those especially
> obtuse and wouldn't accept stuff from one of our many think-tanks or
> philosophers, I would use the search feature and my did that provide
> many great results).
>
> Is this stuff gone for good? In the future, can we please keep this
> wonderful material that helps illustrate the LP position on various
> topics? I am disappoint :'(====
>
> When this material (notice I did not say "if") is restored, it needs
> to be equally searchable.
>
> Moulton also has a zip of the site prior to the old site with content
> that never got restored.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
> - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2016, David Demarest
> <dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> Likewise – I need to pass the link to my professional photo on the
> old web site to Wes and Robert for use on the new web site.
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> Cell: 402-981-6469 <tel:402-981-6469>
>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <tel:402-493-0873>
>
> Office: 402-222-7207 <tel:402-222-7207>
>
> *From:*Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:38 PM
> *To:* ken.moellman at lpky.org
> *Cc:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] LP.org website transition - missing
> pages (83% data loss)
>
> Can someone answer me if we have a zip of the old site? I
> understand it is running in parallel right now for staff, but I am
> really concerned that the data will just go poof.
>
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Member Chuck Moulton helpfully wrote to me to say that the
> agendas get subsumed and are recorded in the minutes so that
> would satisfy the Bylaws requirement. I think someone could be
> a pain and argue differently from the Bylaws that a separate
> "proposed agenda" and not the final agenda is what is required
> (that is the strict language of the Bylaws) but I certainly
> think that since the Agendas are reported in the minutes, the
> complete spirit and intent is fulfilled as long as the
> proposed agendas are included with prompt posting of the
> meeting notices. (I note that the July meeting notice was not
> posted promptly and I don't think the special session in
> September was ever publicly noticed other than in this list).
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On another note I see "Bylaws compliance" come up in that
> discussion. The items that are a subject of Bylaws
> compliance are old minutes and agendas. And the Bylaws
> say those are to be on the "Party website" so there is no
> shunting those off to another site. That is not optional
> under the Bylaws.
>
> FWIW, our old site and our new site are not in compliance
> when it comes to Agendas. I highly suggest that the
> Agendas get added - I don't personally see the value, but
> the Bylaws requires it.
>
> If we are not keeping LPedia, any archive that is Party
> property is not satisfied by being on LPedia. It is great
> if it is there, but as pointed out ,we would not control it.
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical
> Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Wes for giving that top priority.
>
> On the other issue, the LP could decide to commit to
> and keep LPedia. The only reason handing off is on
> the table is because we let it fall into ruin.
>
> Archiving is entirely different from deleting - and it
> is still available. But I see no reason why the
> archive cannot be on the LP.org site in its own
> archive section.
>
> Archiving is about designation, organization. and
> digital location.
>
> There is the issue of our SEO on old links.
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical
> Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2016, Ken Moellman
> <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>
> Absolutely. I think we're actually agreeing.
>
> Please understand that, professionally, I'm in
> Enterprise Storage and Backup. My entire job
> revolves around data; keeping it available and
> secure. I'm not one to "delete" anything, but I'm
> suggesting that now is the time to take a look at
> archiving some stuff. By default, we should retain
> all data. However, it doesn't all need to be on
> LP.org.
>
> I do think that leveraging LPedia is one way to
> handle it. However, I think LPedia is being handed
> off to LSLA and I don't think LP National can
> control LSLA and ensure Bylaws compliance. (As a
> side note, I'm an LPedia contributor and I think
> it's a good project).
>
> ---
>
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
>
> On 2016-11-16 05:30, Starchild wrote:
>
> Sure Ken, let's take a look. If you or someone
> else suggest that a particular document or
> category of materials be transferred to
> another site, and everyone looks at it and
> agrees it doesn't need to be maintained on
> LP.org <http://LP.org>, fine. But if you try
> to use the implementation of a site revamp as
> an opportunity to by fait accompli bury or
> trash material that other people don't want
> buried or trashed, then the next time you want
> to update the website (or anything else), some
> people are likely to remember what you tried
> to do this time and not trust you.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
>
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National
> Committee
>
> (415) 625-FREE
>
> @StarchildSF
>
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>
> As a new member of the LNC, I wasn't
> involved in any of the original
> decisions. I would have said the same
> thing then, too. This is the right time to
> examine content. Why move over what is
> unnecessary? Let's take a look now.
>
> There was also talk at one time - several
> years ago - of splitting the website into
> two sites; one all about marketing the LP,
> and the other for the back-office and more
> technical stuff (like bylaws and meeting
> minutes and whatnot). Both publicly
> available, but one being very simple and
> the other being more of the document
> repository and archive.
>
> I'd rather not talk about re-engineering a
> brand new website with the new one being
> wrapped up. But it's all stuff to think
> about. I do personally think a sleek
> "first impression" site might be a
> worthwhile item to examine.
>
> ---
>
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
>
> On 2016-11-15 23:04, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> And - as I said. The prediction of
> members is coming true. It was said
> then that this move would be an excuse
> to delete content. I get called
> paranoid.... and now we see an
> apologetic for just that.
>
> There is sentiment to delete content
> and there was "appears" to
> be purposeful ideological rebranding
> of the masthead that should be an LNC
> level decision.
>
> Just like members expressed fears
> about and were assured would not happen.
>
> And now are said to be paranoid. Or
> characterized as hyper critics.
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian
> National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
> Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
> - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian
> Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator,
> Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016, Ken
> Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>
> It's not about the cost of
> storage, really, but the amount of
> clutter.
>
> For instance, somewhere I have
> every email I have ever sent or
> received (except 94-97). Why? It's
> not like I look at them. And it
> makes searching for something that
> much more difficult.
>
> But I never quite get around to
> purging out data I don't need
> anymore because I never have a
> reason to even get into that old
> mail. If I ever had a reason, I
> might start cleaning it up.
>
> I even went and re-purchased a
> software license for $25 because
> it wasn't worth my time to go back
> through all of that data to try to
> save $25.
>
> The point is to avoid being a
> hoarder. While keeping 20-year-old
> newspapers in stacks around the
> house has no monetary cost, there
> are other hidden and not so hidden
> costs.
>
> While we're going through the
> house anyway, let's toss some
> garbage. It wasn't garbage 20
> years ago, certainly, but now....
> well.
>
> ---
>
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
>
> On 2016-11-15 18:32, Starchild wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Were we somehow running into
> space limitations on how much
> is stored at LP.org
> <http://LP.org/>? I'm not
> aware of any such
> issue. Assuming there is no
> urgency on getting older
> material off the site, I think
> any content proposed to be
> removed from LP.org
> <http://LP.org/> should first
> be submitted to the LNC, so
> that any of us can flag for
> discussion any material that
> we /don't/ believe should be
> transferred (what you said
> about the decision being
> "conscientiously made").
> LPedia.org
> <http://LPedia.org/> would be
> a natural place to archive
> older, less useful material,
> but that site needs to be made
> fully functional and
> accessible. Unless there is
> some kind of urgent technical
> need, I don't think anything
> should be removed from LP.org
> <http://LP.org/>, or not
> ported over to the revamped
> site, until it has an
> immediate new home where
> members can readily access it.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>
> ((( starchild )))
>
> At-Large Representative,
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> (415) 625-FREE
>
> @StarchildSF
>
> On Nov 15, 2016, at 2:53 PM,
> Ken Moellman wrote:
>
> There is a question of
> whether or not we should
> let some data expire. At
> some point, the value of
> the information decreases
> to a point that it is
> practically useless. At
> that point, it should be
> archived, but not kept on
> the main site. But what
> goes away is a decision
> that should be
> conscientiously made by
> someone.
>
> Is the old website still
> hiding somewhere where the
> LNC members can access
> it? It might be good to
> dump every node from the
> old Drupal site and have
> some
> decision-makers determine
> the value of each page.
>
> Wes - My 3PM went long and
> I have another engagement
> until 8PM. If you're
> around after 8:30PM
> Eastern feel free to give
> me a call.
>
> ---
>
> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate
> Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
>
> On 2016-11-15 17:06, Caryn
> Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> Sam - while clever -
> there is absolutely
> zero reason we should
> have data loss simply
> because we have a new
> site. That must be a
> conscious LNC
> decision. I do not
> intend on letting this
> drop.
>
> Further - and as you
> know because I was one
> of the loudest
> complaining members -
> members were assured
> that there would be no
> content culling.
> Members then expressed
> skepticism at that
> promise and felt they
> were being a fed a
> load of hooey.
>
> Let's not show that
> they in fact were.
>
> The look of the site
> is nice. The
> ideological rebranding
> and the loss of
> content is precisely
> what members were
> promised would not
> happen.
>
> Unless the LNC makes
> some decision on this
> to settle it- and then
> members can act
> accordingly - I have
> zero intention of
> letting this drop.
>
> This is unacceptable
> and against all
> assurances given to
> our members.
>
> I will note well that
> a lot of that content
> was generated and put
> up by paid staff.
> Paid by members. And
> now gone.
>
> Grumpy cat says nope.
>
> To answer Ken's
> question. Unless we
> are going to concede
> the LNC and website
> committee lied to
> members, then no one
> can make a decision to
> omit content. And in
> any event that is not
> APRC. APRC could
> potentially require
> that this Bylaws
> violation be done
> before anything else.
> But the rest is
> outside their scope.
>
> This is an LNC level
> decision.
>
> Just like the
> purposeful masthead
> rebranding.
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1
> Representative,
> Libertarian National
> Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado,
> Hawaii, Kansas,
> Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming, Washington)
> - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director, Libertarian
> Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian Party
> Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November
> 15, 2016, Sam
> Goldstein
> <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Here is the most
> recent version of
> the Policy Manual
> that I have on my
>
> computer.
>
> And yes, every
> single document
> generated by a
> member of the
> party over
>
> the past 40 years
> must be on the web
> site for total
> transparency.
>
> Sam
>
>
> Sam Goldstein
>
> Libertarian
> National Committee
>
> Member at Large
>
> 8925 N Meridian
> St, Ste 101
>
> Indianapolis IN 46260
>
> 317-850-0726
> <tel:317-850-0726>
> Phone
>
> 317-582-1773
> <tel:317-582-1773> Fax
>
> On Tue, Nov 15,
> 2016 at 2:49 PM,
> Ken Moellman
> <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> wrote:
>
> Wes, as soon
> as I get done
> with this 3PM
> call I'll
> reach out to you.
>
> ---
>
> Ken C.
> Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3
> Alternate
> Representative
> LPKY Judicial
> Committee
>
> On 2016-11-15
> 14:18, Wes
> Benedict wrote:
>
> Ken, the
> technical
> issues
> with the
> website
> definitely
> have not
> been resolved.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
> (202)
> 333-0008
> ext. 232
> <tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232>,wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> facebook.com/libertarians
> <http://facebook.com/libertarians> @LPNational
>
> Join the Libertarian Party at:http://lp.org/membership
>
> On
> 11/15/2016
> 2:09 PM,
> Ken
> Moellman
> wrote:
>
> Caryn,
> et al -
>
> I
> believe
> the
> technical
> issues
> have
> been
> resolved
> with
> the
> website
> at
> this
> point.
> Things
> look
> like
> they're
> moving
> pretty
> quickly
> and
> cleanly.
>
> I know
> there
> are
> issues
> with
> the
> new
> website
> regarding
> content,
> and we
> definitely
> need
> to
> resolve
> them.
> Certainly
> we
> need
> to put
> meeting
> minutes
> back
> online,
> in
> compliance
> with
> the
> bylaws.
> Assuming
> the
> technical
> issues
> are
> resoled,
> I'm
> sure
> that
> will
> happen
> in the
> near
> future.
>
> But
> this
> brings
> up a
> larger
> issue:
> does
> everything
> from
> before
> need
> to be
> there?
> How
> far
> back
> do we
> go? Should
> every
> bit of
> content
> from
> the
> old
> site
> be
> available
> on the
> new site?
>
> Also,
> I
> still
> can't
> find
> the
> Policy
> Manual,
> so I
> don't
> know
> if
> APRC
> need
> to
> approve
> additions
> and/or
> subtractions
> from
> the
> website.
> If not
> the
> APRC,
> who
> decides
> when
> data
> expires?
>
> ---
>
> Ken C.
> Moellman,
> Jr.
> LNC
> Region
> 3
> Alternate
> Representative
> LPKY
> Judicial
> Committee
>
> On
> 2016-11-15
> 13:56,
> Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos
> wrote:
>
> No
> word
> yet
> on
> this
> missing
> data
> I
> suppose?
>
>
> I
> was
> directed
> to
> a
> link
> I
> needed
> for
> research
> and.....
> a 404
>
> https://www.lp.org/archives/lnc20040814.pdf
> <https://www.lp.org/archives/lnc20040814.pdf>
>
> This
> is
> not
> acceptable.
>
> --
>
> *In
> Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos*
>
> Region
> 1
> Representative,
> Libertarian
> National
> Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona,
> Colorado,
> Hawaii,
> Kansas,
> Montana,
> Utah,
> Wyoming,
> Washington)
> - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director,
> Libertarian
> Party
> of
> Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado
> State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian
> Party
> Radical
> Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> ,
> Montana,
> Utah,
> Wyoming,
> Washington)
> - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director,
> Libertarian
> Party
> of
> Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado
> State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian
> Party
> Radical
> Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> On
> Tue,
> Nov
> 8,
> 2016
> at
> 5:53
> PM,
> Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Moulton
> supplemented:
>
>
> LNC
> members,
>
> I
> want
> to
> follow
> up
> on
> this
> point.
> I
> was
> just
> looking
> at
> 404
> errors
> before.
> In
> fact,
> the
> problem
> is
> much,
> much,
> much,
> much
> worse.
>
> The
> candidate
> listings
> that
> do
> exist
> (are
> not
> 404
> errors,
> were
> properly
> redirected)
> are
> mostly
> just
> stubs
> that
> include
> only
> their
> names.
>
> These
> are
> our
> statewide
> candidates
> in
> Pennsylvania:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/edward-clifford/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/edward-clifford/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/james-babb/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/james-babb/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/roy-minet/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/roy-minet/>
>
> It
> might
> be
> hard
> to
> tell
> they
> are
> our
> statewide
> candidates
> because
> their
> listings
> include
> only
> the
> following
> information:
> *
> LP
> logo
> *
> Name
>
> Their
> listings
> DO
> NOT
> INCLUDE
> any
> of
> the
> following
> information:
> *
> State
> *
> Office/district
> *
> Picture
> *
> Biography
> *
> Website
> link
> *
> Facebook
> *
> Twitter
> *
> Contact
> info
>
> If
> you
> think
> this
> problem
> is
> limited
> to
> states
> with
> less
> political
> connections,
> you
> are
> wrong.
>
> Here
> are
> a
> few
> listings
> from
> people
> running
> very
> active
> campaigns:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/aaron-starr/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/aaron-starr/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/arvin-vohra/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/arvin-vohra/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/lily-tang-williams/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/lily-tang-williams/>
>
> (Disclosure
> note:
> I
> donated
> to
> Aaron
> Starr's
> campaign.)
>
> Here
> are
> a
> few
> other
> candidates
> you
> may
> recognize:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/norm-olsen/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/norm-olsen/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/roland-riemers/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/roland-riemers/> (404
> error)
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/patrick-mcknight/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/patrick-mcknight/>
>
> Here
> is
> one
> of
> the
> few
> candidate
> pages
> with
> actual
> information:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/mark-miller/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/mark-miller/>
>
> Note
> that
> even
> that
> trails
> off
> at
> the
> end...
> "As
> an
> experienced
> PhD
> petroleum
> engineer
> and
> former
> UT
> petroleum
> engineering
> faculty
> member,
> he
> will
> undoubtedly
> be
> the
> most
> qualified
> candidate
> on
> the
> November
> 201".
> Also
> the
> Facebook
> and
> Twitter
> links
> are
> broken.
> And
> it
> doesn't
> mention
> what
> office
> he
> is
> seeking.
> Nice
> that
> the
> LNC
> donated
> thousands
> of
> dollars
> to
> his
> campaign...
> too
> bad
> no
> one
> bothered
> to
> spend
> 5
> minutes
> fixing
> the
> errors
> in
> his
> candidate
> listing.
>
> Of
> course,
> his
> old
> page
> does
> not
> redirect:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/mark-a-miller/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/mark-a-miller/>
>
> John
> Moore
> is
> a
> 404
> page:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/john-moore/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/john-moore/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/john-moore/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/john-moore/>
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/john-moore/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/john-moore/>
>
> As
> is
> Laura
> Ebke:
> https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/laura-ebke/
> <https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/laura-ebke/>
>
> TODAY
> IS
> ELECTION
> DAY.
> What
> a
> wasted
> opportunity!!!
>
> Maybe
> if
> we
> hadn't
> shut
> down
> our
> working
> website
> 2
> weeks
> before
> the
> election
> and
> replaced
> it
> with
> a
> buggy
> new
> website
> with
> 83%
> data
> loss
> and
> long
> load
> times
> (using
> a
> lot
> of
> precious
> staff
> time
> at
> their
> busiest
> period),
> we
> could
> have
> listed
> and
> promoted
> some
> of
> our
> candidates.
>
> Please,
> please,
> PLEASE
> exercise
> some
> actual
> oversight
> as
> a
> board
> and
> do
> something
> about
> the
> critical
> and
> embarrassing
> error
> torpedoing
> one
> of
> our
> greatest
> assets
> (on
> the
> eve
> of
> the
> election):
> our
> national
> lp.org
> <http://lp.org/> website.
>
> I've
> received
> feedback
> asking
> me
> if
> I
> was
> being
> over
> the
> top
> or
> facetious
> suggesting
> someone
> should
> be
> FIRED
> or
> REMOVED
> FROM
> THE
> LNC
> over
> this.
> I
> was
> not.
> I
> am
> completely
> serious.
> What
> was
> done
> to
> the
> website
> goes
> beyond
> a
> harmless
> error.
> It
> goes
> beyond
> reckless.
> It
> was
> NEGLIGENT.
> Someone
> should
> be
> held
> accountable
> for
> all
> the
> damage
> that
> has
> been
> done
> to
> the
> Libertarian
> Party
> --
> an
> organization
> we
> all
> have
> poured
> time
> and
> money
> into
> for
> decades
> hoping
> to
> see
> it
> succeed.
>
> Thank
> you
> for
> your
> consideration.
>
> Chuck
> Moulton
> Life
> Member
> &
> Monthly
> Pledger,
> Libertarian
> Party
>
> P.S.
> I
> voted
> proudly
> for
> Gary
> Johnson
> and
> the
> other
> Libertarians
> on
> the
> Pennsylvania
> ballot
> today.
>
> On
> Sat,
> Nov
> 5,
> 2016
> at
> 3:20
> PM,
> Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos
> <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> For
> the
> public's
> information.
> A
> ton
> of
> ideological
> links
> are,
> in
> fact,
> broken.
>
> ----------
> Forwarded
> message
> ----------
> From:
> *Chuck
> Moulton*
> <chuck at moulton.org>
> Date:
> Fri,
> Nov
> 4,
> 2016
> at
> 5:21
> PM
> Subject:
> Re:
> LP.org
> <http://LP.org/>
> website
> transition
> -
> missing
> pages
> (83%
> data
> loss)
>
>
> Kevin
> Ludlow
> wrote:
>
> What
> would
> be
> useful
> right
> now
> would
> be
> if
> you
> could
> point
> out
> the
> broken
> links
> so
> that
> we
> can
> assign
> permanent
> redirects
> to
> them.
>
> [...]
>
> So
> anyway,
> if
> you'd
> like
> to
> submit
> broken
> links,
> we'd
> love
> to
> set
> up
> additional
> forwards.
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Glad
> to
> help!
>
> Obviously,
> it
> is
> much
> easier
> for
> you
> to
> see
> what
> redirects
> need
> to
> be
> made,
> as
> you
> have
> access
> to
> the
> old
> website,
> the
> new
> website,
> and
> the
> 404
> logs.
> However,
> you
> seem
> to
> be
> having
> trouble
> with
> this,
> so
> I'll
> provide
> you
> with
> the
> information
> you
> need.
>
> It
> would
> be
> very
> difficult
> to
> compile
> a
> list
> of
> all
> incoming
> links
> to
> lp.org
> <http://lp.org/>
> without
> access
> to
> the
> server
> logs.
> Therefore,
> I
> used
> Google's
> search
> results,
> which
> is
> a
> reasonable
> proxy
> for
> outside
> links.
> I
> searched
> for
> "site:lp.org
> <http://lp.org/>",
> then
> I
> did
> followup
> searches
> for
> all
> directories
> I
> found
> with
> "site:lp.org
> <http://lp.org/>
> inurl:lp.org/blog
> <http://lp.org/blog>"
> (for
> example)
> because
> Google
> does
> not
> list
> all
> the
> results
> it
> has
> indexed
> without
> narrow
> searches.
> This
> netted
> 2,531
> unique
> URLs
> indexed
> by
> Google.
> I
> wrote
> a
> program
> in
> Python
> to
> scrape
> that
> information.
>
> Next,
> Stewart
> Flood
> wrote
> a
> Perl
> program
> to
> check
> every
> URL
> on
> my
> list
> and
> find
> out
> whether
> it
> threw
> a
> 404
> error.
> (He
> also
> checked
> for
> load
> times
> and
> other
> information,
> which
> we
> will
> highlight
> in
> a
> subsequent
> report.)
> Sorry
> this
> took
> so
> long...
> Stewart
> was
> busy
> watching
> the
> World
> Series.
> We
> re-ran
> the
> script
> several
> times
> this
> week
> to
> see
> if
> staff
> added
> any
> redirects...
> they
> only
> added
> one
> page:
> /contribute.
> The
> program
> can
> be
> re-run
> at
> any
> time
> to
> track
> what's
> been
> added.
> Not
> all
> of
> the
> missing
> URLs
> should
> necessarily
> be
> carried
> forward,
> but
> a
> lot
> of
> historical
> information
> is
> no
> longer
> present.
>
> Our
> results
> are
> included
> in
> the
> attachments.
> (Note:
> In
> the
> summary
> page,
> these
> are
> groupings
> by
> directory,
> not
> the
> actual
> URLs.)
>
> Basically,
> 83%
> of
> the
> webpages
> indexed
> by
> Google
> have
> not
> been
> carried
> over
> or
> properly
> redirected.
>
>
> In
> liberty,
>
> Chuck
> Moulton
> Life
> Member
> &
> Monthly
> Pledger,
> Libertarian
> Party
> 2006-2008
> IT
> Committee
> Chair
>
> Stewart
> Flood
> Life
> Member
> &
> Monthly
> Pledger,
> Libertarian
> Party
> 2008-2012
> IT
> Committee
> Chair
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *In
> Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos*
>
> Region
> 1
> Representative,
> Libertarian
> National
> Committee
> (Alaska,
> Arizona,
> Colorado,
> Hawaii,
> Kansas,
> Montana,
> Utah,
> Wyoming,
> Washington)
> -
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director,
> Libertarian
> Party
> of
> Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado
> State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian
> Party
> Radical
> Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> *In
> Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos*
>
> Region
> 1
> Representative,
> Libertarian
> National
> Committee
> (Alaska,
> Arizona,
> Colorado,
> Hawaii,
> Kansas,
> Montana,
> Utah,
> Wyoming,
> Washington)
> -
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director,
> Libertarian
> Party
> of
> Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado
> State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian
> Party
> Radical
> Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *In
> Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn
> Ann
> Harlos*
>
> Region
> 1
> Representative,
> Libertarian
> National
> Committee
> (Alaska,
> Arizona,
> Colorado,
> Hawaii,
> Kansas,
> Montana,
> Utah,
> Wyoming,
> Washington)
> -
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications
> Director,
> Libertarian
> Party
> of
> Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado
> State
> Coordinator,
> Libertarian
> Party
> Radical
> Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
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>
> Region 1
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> Libertarian National
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> Arizona, Colorado,
> Hawaii, Kansas,
> Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming, Washington) -
> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
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>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian
> National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
> Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -
> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian
> Party of Colorado
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>
> Colorado State Coordinator,
> Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
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>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
> Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
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> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>
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>
> --
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> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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