[Lnc-business] Project

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I apologize for the missing phrase, I am not feeling well today.

If it focused more on sheer mechanics and laid out the non-negotiable fact
that any messaging must be within the Statement of Principles (as per our
Bylaws - we exist to implement and give voice ot the Statement of
Principles - for which I see no mention or concern here), I would support.
As worded now, I would oppose.  Strongly.

We are not a mere producer asking, for instance, what food we should sell,
as if hamburgers or hotdogs are both equally acceptable.  We are an
ideological party by design with a specific product that is set (by a 7/8
requirement).  We can certainly sell that product better-and that is always
true.  But the product is non-negotiable, and I will not support anything
that does not make that absolutely clear.  If this proposal steered way
clear of ideology and really focused on expertise of mechanics, it would be
worthwhile in my eyes.  For ideological messaging advice. I want
Libertarians - perhaps working with marketing experts - but with definite
Libertarian oversight.  I repeat, I will not vote for anything that gives
even a remote hint that it will be telling Libertarians that they need to
be less Libertarian. Absolutely not.

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I will re-iterate what I said on Facebook.  There are certainly areas in
> which I think we need a cold hard look at things--however, a lot of this is
> dependent on the candidate. The LNC does not direct the candidates, and as
> such, I am not sure this is the best use of our money. Further, the
> "messaging" part concerns me, and without serious parameters, I am not
> interested in using member money for outsiders to tell Libertarians they
> need to be less Libertarian. As worded, I would not support.  If it focused
> more on sheer mechanics, and laid out that messaging needs to be within our
> Statement of Principles (as per our Bylaws - for which I see no mention or
> concern here), I would oppose. Strongly.
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A few thoughts:
>> 1.  My birthday is January 10.
>> 2.  I am generally in favor of this, but I agree with the comments in the
>> document about inherent bias and would favor option 1.  However, I'd like
>> to have an idea of the cost.  I'm having trouble understanding the motion
>> presented - it starts by talking about taking bids, but then states the
>> firm chosen will present their findings in December 2017.  If all we're
>> doing is taking bids, and more action will be needed to actually hire a
>> firm, how will the firm be chosen?  Will the committee choose them and
>> forward their choice to the LNC for an up/down vote, or simply present the
>> LNC with all the options?  In any case, I feel like I'm in the dark because
>> I don't have a sense of the neighborhood we'd expect for those bids.
>> 3.  I don't know what firms you have contacted, but here is a list of the
>> usual candidates for such an endeavor:
>> https://sipa.columbia.edu/system/files/Political%20Consultin
>> g%20Firms_0.pdf
>> There are, of course, others.
>> 4.  Thank you for thinking of this and putting together a package.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:55 PM, Trent Somes <tsomes3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Please take the time to read the attached document. I can't wait to see
>>> all of you again. If you have any questions, please text my cell phone or
>>> message me on social media, however I am on vacation right now and may be
>>> without service.
>>>
>>> Also, Chairman Sarwark, can I please have 15-30 minutes to discuss this
>>> at the December meeting?
>>>
>>> Thank you all and Happy Thanksgiving,
>>>
>>>
>>> *Trent Somes, III*
>>> Region 5 Alternate, Libertarian National Committee
>>> Founder, Westmoreland County Libertarians <http://fb.com/wclibertarians>
>>> National Chair, Libertarian Youth Caucus <http://fb.com/LYCaucus>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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