[Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016

Joshua Katz planning4liberty at gmail.com
Thu Dec 1 10:00:00 EST 2016


Thanks for asking.  Short answer:  I envision the committee making a
recommendation to the LNC.  I agree with my colleague from Colorado that a
comprehensive messaging strategy is a board-level decision, but I often
think board-level decisions can be aided by asking a small committee to do
research and report, with the decision reserved to the board.

There was also a question about my intent.  This is my second term, in some
capacity, on the LNC.  It's also my second term on the APRC.  Based on that
small degree of experience, it seems to me that the LNC has, to a large
extent, not taken all that much of a position on questions like "how do we
wish to present ourselves to the world?"  Instead, we've left it to staff
with no real direction, and then occasionally said "you're doing it wrong."
 I think it is better to provide overall guidance and instructions,
followed by accountability, rather than trying to exercise governance by
looking at progress on a daily basis.

I'd like us to be able to ask questions on a quarterly basis like "Are our
communications presenting the party as we've instructed?" "Has there been
an impact on X?" "Do we need to adjust our strategy?"  I think this would
be better than periodically freaking out over a FB meme or an urgent-gram.

Direct, assess, hold accountable.  Have a core idea of how we'd like to be
presented that is known ahead of time, not arising from rejections.  This
would enable this board to focus on large objectives.  When we do not have
such things in place, the tendency is to micro-manage, because that becomes
the only way we can exert control.

Joshua A. Katz


On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Actually I meant the net content after your suggested amendment David, if
> you were being serious about that.
>
> But now that you mention it, I'm not super clear on what Joshua had in
> mind for a hypothetical messaging strategy committee to do either. Would
> you envision this committee having any powers beyond recommending a
> messaging strategy to the LNC, Joshua? If not, I guess I wouldn't have a
> problem with appointing some people to brainstorm on the subject, so long
> as they operated transparently and allowed LP members to participate in
> their conversations.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>                                      ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>                                     @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:10 AM, David Demarest wrote:
>
> Ditto Starchild on the content, and, just as important, the *intent*…
>
> Thoughts?
>
> *Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party*
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO,
> ND, NE, WI)
>
> *From:* Starchild [mailto:sfdreamer at earthlink.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016 7:33 AM
> *To:* David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
> *Cc:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; david.demarest at firstdata.com; 'Caryn Ann
> Harlos' <carynannharlos at gmail.com>; 'Joshua Katz' <
> planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting
> December 10-11, 2016
>
>             I'm not sure I understand the net content of what's being
> proposed.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>                                      ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>                                     @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:03 AM, David Demarest wrote:
>
>
> Starchild, I echo your “more serious note” thought. I would suggest
> amending the phrase as follows: “*transparency* messaging strategy”.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> *Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party*
>
> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE*
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
> Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO,
> ND, NE, WI)
> Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee
> Secretary Pro Tem, LNC Affiliate Support Committee
> Board Member and Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
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>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Starchild
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:59 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting
> December 10-11, 2016
>
>             It may be a committee of one, but that won't necessarily stop
> it from expanding if it consumes a lot of BBQ meat at the LNC meeting.   :-)
>
>             On a more serious note – what Caryn Ann said about messaging
> strategy.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>                                   ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                 (415) 625-FREE
>                                   @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>
>
>
> Mr Hayes is clearly jealous that he does not get his own committee.
>
> Sam (Committee of one)
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I must object. The Sam Committee is clearly out of order!
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNChili At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:53 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Caryn Ann, I will cosponsor your Sam Committee proposal - J
>
> Thoughts?
>
> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!*
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:08 PM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting
> December 10-11, 2016
>
> I am seeking to propose the Sam Committee.
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>  Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sam Goldstein <
> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you guys keep proposing new committees we might have to expand
> the LNC just to fill all of them.
>
> Sam
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joshua, as I am sure you can anticipate, I am not at all in favour of a
> committee to come up with messaging strategy. If there is one thing that
> the LNC must be able to do on its own and take command of, its that. With
> the (I believe completely inappropriate) messaging agenda without explicit
> LNC approval involved in the new website, I will look with a jaundiced eye
> at shunting that to a committee.   And evenmoreso if that committee is
> cloaked in secrecy.  Members have a vested interest in seeing that we are
> proper stewards of the Statement of Principles.  THAT is our message, and
> thus, any "strategy" about it must be in full sunshine.
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>  Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Well, I can live with it, and I apologize for being unclear, but my intent
> was not to have a freewheelin' discussion about messaging strategy, or to
> discuss a messaging strategy at all, to be honest.  Instead, my intent was
> to introduce a motion to appoint a committee to come up with one.  I would
> ask, if possible, if it can be moved from the lunch to new business without
> previous notice.  5 minutes can suffice.
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I've attached a draft proposed agenda for the meeting on December 10
> and 11.  I've made efforts to accommodate all requests for time I've
> received and still have the meeting fit within the time available.
> Please let me know if there are requests I've missed or changes you
> would suggest.
>
> Yours truly,
> Nick
>
>  <Untitled attachment 03009.txt>
>
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> <Untitled attachment 03271.txt>
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