[Lnc-business] Truth in Polling Resolution

Joshua Katz planning4liberty at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 12:40:43 EST 2016


Yes, that cures that objection.  Thanks.

Joshua A. Katz


On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Steve provided a different language to the one part of the resolution that
> Joshua brought up was confusing:
>
> Change: WHEREAS; the exclusion of a candidate from equal footing in a
> polling question is not the same as a  ballot which does include all
> candidates in the same question, and therefore this exclusion cannot
> possibly present an accurate portrayal of the anticipated ending result of
> an election;
>
>
> To:  WHEREAS; Polling questions which exclude candidates desired by the
> voters do not accurately represent ballot options or public opinion and are
> prejudicial against the will of the voters;
>
> Joshua, would that work to clarify (understanding that you are not yet
> speaking on the merits, only on the clarity)?
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Without committing myself on the merits, I note that in reading through,
>> I found myself tripping over the clause below:
>>
>> WHEREAS; the exclusion of a candidate from equal footing in a polling
>> question is not the same as a  ballot which does include all candidates in
>> the same question, and therefore this exclusion cannot possibly present an
>> accurate portrayal of the anticipated ending result of an election;
>>
>> It took me 2 readings to understand what that one is saying; on a first
>> read, it seemed to say either that not being in a poll is worse than ballot
>> exclusion, or that ballot exclusion is fine.  I understand it now, but I'd
>> suggest modifying the wording.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have ten minutes on the Agenda for this but I wanted to provide the
>>> information ahead of time for review by LNC members and if there seems to
>>> be any wording impediment or other concern that I can address with the
>>> drafter ahead of time so that I can.
>>>
>>> I was asked to bring this resolution by former Presidential candidate
>>> Steve Kerbel.  Truth in Polling is his current project. He has given a
>>> presentation to our local LP meeting, and it seems very promising.  In
>>> addition to the below resolution, he provided me (upon request) the
>>> attached information write-up for the information of my fellow committee
>>> members.
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, prior to and during the 2016 election campaign season,
>>> political polling organizations routinely excluded the Libertarian Party
>>> presidential ticket from inclusion or equal footing in the first question
>>> with respect to presidential preference;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, these and other political polling organizations also routinely
>>> excluded Libertarian Party candidates for offices nationwide from inclusion
>>> and/or equal footing in their respective races;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, various political polls have been shown to exclude key
>>> demographics from their results and these exclusions unfairly skew these
>>> results which are provided to the public;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS; the exclusion of a candidate from equal footing in a polling
>>> question is not the same as a  ballot which does include all candidates in
>>> the same question, and therefore this exclusion cannot possibly present an
>>> accurate portrayal of the anticipated ending result of an election;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, political polls influence the results of an election, as these
>>> polls are used to determine the inclusion of candidates in the most high
>>> profile of political debates and forums for many races, as well as gauging
>>> popular support;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, many people view the level of public support of a candidate as
>>> a contributing factor for casting their vote, and a candidate excluded from
>>> equal footing in the polls is at an unfair disadvantage in this regard;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, due to these circumstances, it is imperative that pollsters are
>>> held to the highest standard of honesty, integrity, inclusiveness and
>>> accuracy in results provided to the public;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, other organizations have targeted their attempts at countering
>>> the corruption of the Commission for Presidential Debates, but not to the
>>> pollsters specifically;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, The Truth in Polling Coalition has developed and is
>>> implementing a plan to expose and counteract the exclusionary and
>>> manipulative actions of pollsters, thereby resulting in more complete
>>> information and options being presented to the voting public, hence a level
>>> playing field for all legitimate candidates;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BE IT RESOLVED that the Libertarian National Committee hereby supports
>>> and endorses the efforts of the Truth in Polling Coalition in their fight
>>> to include Libertarian candidates in a position of equal footing for future
>>> elections nationwide.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
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