[Lnc-business] Liberty Links

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Official caucuses=bad.  But having something minimal like publicly
identifying as operating within LP - adopting SoP and having a website is
reasonable and within our boundaries.

But I have severe misgivings about no disclaimers - so that I not am nit
picking on BHL- Lee Rockwell has problematic items on immigration for
instance.

On Monday, December 12, 2016, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with the Vice-Chair about many things here, but I think there's a
> dangling conclusion unconnected to any premises.  Trump used Twitter.
> Twitter is very different from link sharing.  The biggest difference, in my
> view, is that you are promoting the other group through a specific thing,
> not its entirety.  I think that's likely to be more effective - it shows
> the point, it shows people what you are sending them over there for, and it
> is a way out of endorsing everything on the page.
>
> I don't like the disclaimer idea.  In my opinion, if it's far enough off,
> just don't do it.  Even better, though, see above - link to what you want
> to point to, not to what you don't.  If we tweeter a good BHL article, it
> doesn't mean we're permanently endorsing everything that appears on that
> page.
>
> It depends, to some extent, on in what ways things are off as well.  For
> instance, in today's political environment, I have to say, I'm not
> comfortable with certain pages that grow out of the 1990's attempt to fuse
> conservatism with libertarianism (as opposed to the earlier Meyer
> attempt).  I was a huge fan of some such pages during their less right-wing
> days, and one of them I credit with bringing me into the libertarian fold -
> I wrote for them, and was endorsed by them when I ran for the LNC.  Today,
> though, they are full of praise for Trump and attacks on immigration.
>
> On caucuses: if the rule is "admit one, admit all" I think you're creating
> a problem when you admit one.  As my colleague asks, what does it take to
> be a caucus?  We're creating an entitlement to, if not an endorsement,
> something that could be mistaken for one, with a relatively low bar to
> qualify.
>
> The solution proposed here is to have "official caucuses."  I don't think
> I can agree with that either.  Caucuses exist to influence the LNC.  The
> power to set minimal standards is the power to exclude, which doesn't shut
> anything down, but does make some more powerful than others.  These are
> meant to be independent groups of like-minded people; incorporating them
> into the LP reminds me of some countries where there is a Department of
> Approved Dissent.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As Hillary Clinton pointed out, one of Trump's strategies was to
>> encourage the growth of Alt-Right groups. With shared tweets, groups that
>> had 11 people grew to 11 million. This in turn, bolstered the Trump
>> campaign and built loyalty.
>>
>> We are spearhead of the Libertarian movement. By helping other groups
>> grow, we are helping the entire movement, which means helping ourselves. By
>> educating new Libertarians, helping them convince family and friends, we're
>> helping the party grow.
>>
>> There are some restrictions that we should keep in mind. First, internal
>> caucuses should either be all included, or all excluded. I would prefer
>> including them all, since it helps people get more deeply involved in the
>> LP. That said, I could see issues coming up, so am fine with exclude them
>> all.
>>
>> Large organizations that primarily support old party monkeys should be
>> left out. For example, a link to the NRA would be spectacularly unstrategic.
>>
>> But size should not be a major consideration. We'll build more by helping
>> small organizations grow than by redirecting people to large organizations
>> who then redirect them to the statist duopoloy.
>>
>> -Arvin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Arvin Vohra
>>
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>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>> (301) 320-3634
>>
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