[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman

Alicia Mattson agmattson at gmail.com
Sat Jul 15 04:08:04 EDT 2017


Actually, since we're crafting language after the fact, I'm going to insert
the word "Congressional" before the word "campaign" just for clarification
in the record.

-Alicia



On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:

> In most cases, we need co-sponsors of precise wording of a motion, rather
> than just co-sponsoring ideas and crafting the motion after-the-fact.  When
> the wording of the motion is crafted later, it might not be exactly the
> idea that the co-sponsor had in mind, so they might not be willing to
> co-sponsor any longer.
>
> In this case, it's a fairly straightforward concept, and the wording Ms.
> Harlos wrote below after the fact seems to do justice to the generic idea
> floated at the beginning of this thread.  I'll use the wording below for
> the motion this time.  If during the voting, any of the co-sponsors objects
> to the after-the-fact wording, I'd need to stop the email ballot because I
> mistakenly sent it out before it was properly co-sponsored, and we'd start
> again getting co-sponsors on precise wording.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> THANK YOU STARCHILD:
>>
>> So yes we now have the co-sponsors required for a Motion for the LNC to
>> contribute $5,000 to support the campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah).
>>
>> Motion co-sponsors: Caryn Ann Harlos, David Demarest, Starchild, Whitney
>> Bilyeu
>>
>> If that is not the understanding of any of the co-sponsors let me know.
>>
>> THANK YOU!!!  Dr. Buchman THANKS YOU!!!!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've been torn over this. I consider Joe both a good friend and a
>>> principled libertarian with excellent ethical instincts, a lack of burning
>>> ambition, and solid enough balls to stand up and speak out on principle
>>> when he sees something wrong going on – in short, just the kind of
>>> Libertarian we need in office. He is waging a radical and spirited campaign
>>> for public office using wit and humor, the kind of campaign that does us
>>> credit.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless I am also very much in agreement with Sam Goldstein that we
>>> need to stop appropriating candidate funds in an ad hoc manner. To do so is
>>> unfair and probably on the whole produces results that are far from
>>> optimum, much like awarding contracts without competitive bidding or hiring
>>> new employees without an open call for applicants. Having not long before
>>> we received this request presented to the LNC a proposal to address this
>>> situation, I was at that time of a mind not to support any more such
>>> requests until we either approve it, or adopt some other reasonable
>>> approach that strives for fairness, consistency, and equal opportunity in
>>> how we allocate funds.
>>>
>>> Yet against this intent I must now weigh the obvious merits of Joe
>>> Buchman's campaign and Caryn Ann's strong case on his behalf, including the
>>> fact that this is the big national campaign we have going right now, and
>>> Joe is getting great exposure. In the end it is possible I am allowing
>>> myself to be swayed by friendship and personal familiarity and regard,
>>> which is precisely the danger of the way we are conducting this process (or
>>> lack of a process), and if some feel I am making the wrong decision I can't
>>> really blame them.  Nevertheless, I'm going to go ahead and co-sponsor in
>>> the knowledge that we'll be supporting a terrific candidate and a man of
>>> integrity who I trust to spend the money wisely.
>>>
>>> So I gather we now have the requisite four votes.
>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>
>>>                                     ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>                         RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>                                 (415) 625-FREE
>>>                                   @StarchildSF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe did very well in the debate - he only had the questions ahead of
>>> time for a few hours while the old party candidates had them for a few
>>> weeks.  He is now working hard to get in the next major debate.  This is a
>>> candidate doing a real campaign... looking for one more co-sponsor.
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> http://kutv.com/news/local/3rd-district-candidates-try-to-br
>>> eak-out-of-the-pack-at-debate-in-provo
>>>
>>> ==But Curtis came with a target on his back. When he told the crowd the
>>> federal government's proper role included overseeing currency, Buchman
>>> pounced.
>>> "Mr. Mayor, I apologize but I get to correct you," he said. "As someone
>>> who earned a PhD and an MBA in finance, the Federal Reserve is a private
>>> bank."==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:30 PM, David Demarest <
>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Regarding Dr. Buchman’s alleged “I can’t win” comment, Larry Sharpe has
>>>> pointed out that despite the admittedly formidable odds against Larry
>>>> winning the 2018 New York Governor’s race, it will be worth it not only to
>>>> lay a foundation for the future but also, and just as important, to provide
>>>> considerable credibility and word-of-mouth publicity impact to down-ticket
>>>> races.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>
>>>> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>>>>
>>>> LSLA Vice-Chair
>>>>
>>>> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Ken Moellman
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:33 PM
>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to
>>>> support campaign of Joe Buchman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I cannot co-sponsor because I'm an alternate.  However, I have had
>>>> several conversations and I want to chime back in and revise my statements
>>>> from my initial email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not know Dr. Buchman personally, and nothing I said before was
>>>> meant to be personal.  As a former campaign manager, anything that sounds
>>>> like "I can't win" makes me want to set the room on fire. I'm a bit
>>>> sensitive on that matter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Since that time, I have learned more information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The core issue is the use of the funds.  If the funds are being used to
>>>> increase the ability of the campaign to do long-term outreach (supplies
>>>> promoting the LP, building local parties, etc.), I could be convinced to
>>>> support such a measure.  By contrast, if the funds are being used to
>>>> purchase supplies like yard signs or other "temporary" campaign-related
>>>> costs, I'd definitely be against it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm just an alternate, so my vote rarely counts.  But after obtaining
>>>> more information and further thought on the matter, I felt it necessary to
>>>> append my previous comments with these.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe is also a friend of mine, and yes, he is "okay" with it, meaning no
>>>> ill feelings as he is a long-term and dedicated member of the Party who
>>>> understands that this is business, he certainly urged me to ask, and has
>>>> been asking me for updates-- so it would mean a great to him and his
>>>> campaign.  This is the only Federal race going on right now - and he just
>>>> scored a victory getting into a previously denied debate.  I have explained
>>>> the realities of the situation with having no set standards yet and he
>>>> understands -- but he certainly did ask me to pursue this.  And members
>>>> have asked me about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As to funding ballot access, though I respect my predecessor Norm
>>>> immensely - he and I are of different minds when it comes to ballot access
>>>> funding - he would routinely vote no.  I have always voted yes.  There are
>>>> many reasons for that but one issue that arises is that Region 1 gets short
>>>> shrift in that - or it can **appear** so.  I am fully on board with the
>>>> idea that nationwide ballot access benefits everyone, but it is certainly
>>>> true that these funds do not go to Region 1 - with the highest numerical
>>>> amounts of affiliates (9 states).  Utah is Region 1 and helping with a
>>>> Region 1 campaign helps to balance this out and thus far, I have had the
>>>> full support of my regional chairs when supporting ballot access funding
>>>> because I press the case that region 1 is getting benefits from pushing
>>>> national memberships and in their national membership.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also urge other members to give a contribution.  I will be doing so
>>>> when I see how this month's finances go.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thank David and Whitney for co-sponsoring.  *I ask for one more.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:13 PM, William Redpath <wredpath2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe Buchman is a multi-decade friend of mine.  I thank him very much
>>>> for running--he jumped in at the last minute when another candidate backed
>>>> out--and wish him the best in his Campaign.  I have personally contributed
>>>> $201 to Joe Buchman's Campaign.  I urge other members of the LNC to do so,
>>>> as well.  However, I am opposed to the LNC contributing to his Campaign.  I
>>>> have discussed this with Joe, and he is OK with no LNC funding of his
>>>> Campaign.  I wish we did, but the LNC currently does not have the resources
>>>> to be contributing to many, if any, candidates, particularly when we have
>>>> other needs, including ballot access in Tennessee and Alabama.  And, we
>>>> have Ohio to finish, and that is a big job.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ask people not to co-sponsor this motion and, should it become a
>>>> motion, to vote "No."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill Redpath
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7/11/17, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=carynannharlos@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to
>>>> support campaign of Joe Buchman
>>>>
>>>> To: "Libertarian National Committee list" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=lnc-business@hq.lp.org>>
>>>>
>>>> Cc: "Joseph Buchman" <drbuchman at gmail.com
>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=drbuchman@gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 1:31 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe got in
>>>>
>>>> the debates - this is getting momentum.  I am once again
>>>>
>>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, David Demarest <
>>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will co-sponsor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2017 12:32 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Joe got in the debates - this is getting momentum.  I am once again
>>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Nick,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am sure you are already on it but would this warrant a letter from
>>>> Oliver?  It sounds like it may.  Only including two people from the old
>>>> establishment parties in the debate, for the sake of time as the criteria I
>>>> have seen for the inclusion, doesn't seem unbiased to me.  AFP is a
>>>> non-profit as I recall. That might put AFP in an even more precarious
>>>> position than the television station in Montana.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As this is regarding potential legal action, I don't expect much of a
>>>> response here on this public list.  I am certain the letters,
>>>> correspondence, filings and other actions, if appropriate, will be put into
>>>> action by those with the letters J.D. behind their name.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>
>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Buchman sent this to me this morning to provide an answer to Ken's
>>>> inquiry and to give information and a request about the debates he has been
>>>> excluded from.  It did not make it to my inbox however and he re-sent to me
>>>> after speaking on the phone this evening and since that time he has been
>>>> officially denied debate access (as per the response I posted in another
>>>> LNC business thread).  But please take this information into consideration
>>>> in this request.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know that we want to develop a candidate assistance procedure.  And I
>>>> understand that is on the agenda for August. But I ask please do not let
>>>> that get in the way of assisting a candidate now.  It is not the fault of
>>>> the candidates that we don't yet have such a procedure and this is in the
>>>> only Federal race now - great opportunity to get attention for a committed
>>>> Libertarian candidate.  Please consider this request..... and in member
>>>> relations purpose, it does not help member confidence when we are not
>>>> assisting when we can in a race that has the sole stage right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>Why won't we assist with the campaign of this candidate in the
>>>> Federal race?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>Because we don't have criteria for assistance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>Why don't you have criteria?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>Because we haven't done it yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>>So candidates suffer from LNC lack of establishment of protocol?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Mark Wicks donation invigorated that race and our members.  This
>>>> could do likewise.  Please co-sponsor my request.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The below is from Dr. Buchman:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ===========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am asking for help from those who have connections with Americans for
>>>> Prosperity in my request to be included in their Third District candidate
>>>> debates.  Please see the email I sent to them copied below and help if you
>>>> can.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As I said in the KSL interview, the first step toward winning is
>>>> getting into these debates.  I see getting into the debates as where the
>>>> focus should be, just as a mountain climber focuses on the next step, or
>>>> Governor Johnson focuses on the next curve in his mountain road.  To focus
>>>> on "winning the race" rather than those immediate intermediate goals is not
>>>> a winning strategy; it's delusional.   I did not say, and have never said,
>>>>  "I am not going to win."  What I said was: "I am not running to win . . .
>>>> primarily I am running, first, to get into the debates."   I also said:
>>>> "The chances of a Libertarian winning the Third District in Utah are not
>>>> impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go for it; I’m giving it everything
>>>> I have. "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I sure wish saying that had made every KSL and LNC listener "happy."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll leave it to others to discern if my interview with Doug Wright
>>>> (has invited me back again) is fairly characterized as a "concession
>>>> speech."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If that has left you off-put for listening to the entire interview, I'd
>>>> ask you  read the following for the full context and  reconsider:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WRIGHT: This gentleman has some KSL connections that we’ll talk about
>>>> some other time, but I want to really get into the motivation, what caused
>>>> you to want to get into this race; you’ve got a PhD, you’re running as a
>>>> Libertarian, so let’s just set the stage. Give us a little background on
>>>> you and why you are in this race.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BUCHMAN: You know Doug, when I walked into your waiting room, I see
>>>> there in the lobby, huge letters on the wall, “A Light of Truth in the
>>>> World.” The truth that I run on is the foundation of Libertarian politics
>>>> which is the fundamental principle in our philosophy that drives our
>>>> politics, our ethics, our morality and those other fields of philosophy of
>>>> which politics is one, is pretty simple, that is that no human being should
>>>> have the right to initiate force, violence against others, to initiate
>>>> force. And then the second core principle is that you either own your
>>>> physical body, it’s yours to do with as you see fit, or you’re part slave;
>>>> you’re owned by someone else. So we take the principles of non-initiation
>>>> of aggression and self-ownership and we apply them to politics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like you said, I am a college professor, that’s where I am coming
>>>> from.  I am not running to win, the chances of a Libertarian winning the
>>>> Third District in Utah are not impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go
>>>> for it; I’m giving it everything I have . . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WRIGHT: right . . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . if I can get Rosie O’ Donnell to retweet something, who
>>>> knows . . .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WRIGHT: It worked for Dr. Allen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . or Drew Carey, or Penn & Teller or some other
>>>> Libertarians who we are reaching out to, who knows? Anything is possible;
>>>> but primarily I am running, first of all, to get into the debates. We need
>>>> a Libertarian voice in the debates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My email to Americans for Prosperity:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Joseph Buchman <drbuchman at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 3:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Third District Candidate debate
>>>> To: infout at afphq.org
>>>>
>>>> I am writing as the Libertarian Party of Utah's candidate for the Third
>>>> District to request inclusion in the debates sponsored by Americans For
>>>> Prosperity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See, for example, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154532862
>>>> 572120&set=gm.1744266952269118&type=3&theater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am on the ballot as a General Election candidate for this office, see:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the absence of an invitation to participate in your debates, may I
>>>> inquire of the standards/process for your selection of candidates?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your attention to this request,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These debates were announced on Friday; the first debate is to be held
>>>> tomorrow (Tuesday evening).  I'll be there either in the audience or
>>>> on the stage. See:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sltrib.com/news/5485360-155/two-debates-set-for-t
>>>> hree-republican
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And while they are now being repurposed as for the "Republican primary
>>>> candidates only" please note the portion of the article which indicates the
>>>> Democrat was invited.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Democrat Kathie Allen — who's raised nearly $700,000 in donations —
>>>> did not respond to an invitation to join the event, Everton said."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Evelyn Everton is the Utah State Director for Americans for Prosperity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Again any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope you'll listen to the entire KSL interview and form your own
>>>> opinion of it.  I'm sure I could have done better and continue to seek your
>>>> constructive feedback as well as help in having Americans for Prosperity
>>>> include the Libertarian in their debates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for your consideration,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> _______________________
>>>> Joseph G. Buchman, PhD
>>>>
>>>> 584 Hillside Circle
>>>>
>>>> Alpine UT 84004
>>>>
>>>> +++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Very good points Starchild and both views are represented in our
>>>> membership.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I certainly hope we don't divisively "take sides" on that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're certainly not the first Libertarian to express a disappointed
>>>> emotional reaction to a candidate's realistic appraisal of his or her
>>>> chances, but to you and any other Libertarian who has felt this way, I say
>>>> take heart! One can lose in conventional terms and still win in libertarian
>>>> terms. A *conventional* win means the warm body you support occupying
>>>> the sought-after office. A *libertarian* win, however, means advancing
>>>> the cause of freedom! Such wins can happen in any number of ways – building
>>>> momentum for a future run, exposing more people to libertarian ideas,
>>>> building the party, etc. Of course the cause of freedom is *usually*
>>>> more likely to be advanced by a Libertarian occupying the sought-after
>>>> office than by not occupying it – but it isn't the be-all, end-all it's too
>>>> often made out to be. In some ways, the real fight begins *after* an
>>>> election is won. If an elected Libertarian isn't mentally prepared to stick
>>>> to his or her libertarian principles and positions, or doesn't have solidly
>>>> libertarian principles or positions to begin with, the real, post-election
>>>> fight for what s/he will do in office is as good as lost. Amid the statist
>>>> culture and pressures in which s/he will be immersed, such an elected
>>>> Libertarian will have little chance of surviving with an agenda to advance
>>>> the cause of freedom intact.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Predicting* an election loss also isn't the same thing as *conceding*.
>>>> When a candidate *concedes* a race, s/he is saying "the campaign is
>>>> over, my opponent won". Clearly Joe Buchman is saying no such thing! From
>>>> appearances, he is running and will continue to run a vigorous campaign and
>>>> seek as much exposure for our ideas and as many votes as possible. He is
>>>> running to win in libertarian terms. But is it wise to predict a loss at
>>>> the ballot box? While miracles occasionally do happen and I've suggested
>>>> candidates leave the perceptions door open by not entirely ruling out the
>>>> possibility of getting elected, I would much rather see a Libertarian
>>>> fighting a long-shot campaign – and this is obviously a long-shot campaign;
>>>> no Libertarian has come close to being elected to Congress – say flat-out
>>>> that s/he won't win, than to flat-out say that s/he will. Any candidate
>>>> facing those kind of odds who predicts electoral victory is either
>>>> deceiving him/herself, or attempting to deceive others. The former shows a
>>>> poor grasp of reality, while the latter shows a lack of integrity. Neither
>>>> reflects well on the candidate! Joe, by contrast, showed his good character
>>>> by giving an honest and realistic assessment of his chances. For every
>>>> person out there who thinks, 'I want to vote for someone who tells me
>>>> s/he's going to win', I believe there's another person out there thinking,
>>>> 'I want to vote for someone who has integrity and tells the truth'. To
>>>> which type of voter mentality should we, as the Party of Principle, be
>>>> trying to appeal?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                      ((( starchild )))
>>>>
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>
>>>>                           RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>>>>
>>>>                                    @StarchildSF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I found out about this campaign yesterday (now, 2 days ago) and the
>>>> referenced KSL interview almost immediately starts with the candidate
>>>> saying "I'm not going to win."  It made me sad. More importantly, I can't
>>>> agree to give money to someone who has already conceded the race.  I mean,
>>>> what is the money going to be used for?  Losing better?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By contrast, from what I can see, candidates like Laura Ebke and at
>>>> least one of the recent converts in NH are gearing up re-election campaigns
>>>> with the intent to win. They certainly haven't publicly conceded, anyway.
>>>> There are lots of candidates throughout the country gearing up for 2018
>>>> races. 4 L converts and many other candidates looking to run winnable
>>>> races.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this body decides to support candidates, I'd really rather see this
>>>> body support candidates that are running to win.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman
>>>> (Utah) and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks.
>>>> I would like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ========
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the members of the LNC:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the Third
>>>> District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7 November
>>>> 2017.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and following a
>>>> special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is on the
>>>> ballot for November 7th.   There is a Democratic opponent.  Three
>>>> Republicans will face each other in a primary next month.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-cand
>>>> idate-filings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office in
>>>> 2017 with a Libertarian candidate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds in the
>>>> campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors, with
>>>> promises for about $500 in process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour of
>>>> Coast to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with an
>>>> estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday** evening, July 29th,
>>>> 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*.  Past show hosts Art Bell and Rollye
>>>> James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have included
>>>> Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre Marrou
>>>> and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US Congress).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his platform
>>>> as an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be directing
>>>> listeners to his website and will be requesting donations.  The Coast to
>>>> Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site -
>>>> www.GotoL.vote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a request for national party funding for this singularly
>>>> important Special Election campaign.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated
>>>> significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue
>>>> to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman
>>>> Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the
>>>> Trump administration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election, the
>>>> last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr. Buchman
>>>> would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that any
>>>> donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar.  The
>>>> show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the
>>>> network website.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake Tribune,
>>>> Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That 9 minute radio interview can be found at:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior
>>>> career in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the
>>>> 1970s), is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and
>>>> philosophy, *and is currently scheduled for one of the most visible
>>>> media appearances by any Libertarian Candidate this month* (and
>>>> perhaps for the remainder of this year).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This special election creates something of a special case for funding;
>>>> an amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in Montana
>>>> would seem equitable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With gratitude for your consideration of this request,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to review the
>>>> website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback, suggestions
>>>> for improvement are also welcomed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>
>>
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