[Lnc-business] FW: Marijuana Resolution - Request for Co-Sponsors

Tue Jan 10 02:00:50 EST 2017

Hello everyone I am bumping this for further comment before Chair Watts
submits something revised to me.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jon Watts <jon.watts at alaskan.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> Jon
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> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> Date: 12/22/16 2:25 PM (GMT-09:00)
> To: Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>, Jon Watts <jon.watts at alaskan.com>
>
> Cc: David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>, "Demarest, David P." <
> david.demarest at firstdata.com>
> Subject: Re: FW: [Lnc-business] Marijuana Resolution - Request for
> Co-Sponsors
>
> I am bumping this for further input before Chair Watts submits a revised
> proposal for me.
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I will be happy to give input.  I am currently a little bogged down
>> with cracking the whip to get the website fixed and to get the IT committee
>> filled out, but the CBD decision is absolutely ridiculous.  There are tons
>> of stories of kids who are getting help with CBD, when no other medicine
>> from the pharma companies helped, and this new rule is sentencing kids to
>> having seizures. I mean, seriously, WTF?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> When I used to do my radio show, I used to emphasize the three different
>> categories:  Recreational, Medicinal, and Industrial. I think we should
>> engage MPP or some other outside group like them to give us some stats.  #
>> of states with full-legal. # of states with medical THC. # of states with
>> medical CBD.  # of states with Industrial Hemp.   That's a very good place
>> to start.
>>
>> We could tie in the DEA's latest action as to why full legalization is
>> necessary; because we can't trust the DEA to discern what's "legitimate"
>> and what's "illegitimate" if they're taking CBD away from kids.
>>
>> Industrial Hemp is very good from a "green" perspective, too. Hemp paper
>> is stronger and better. The Constitution is written on hemp, which is why
>> it still exists (unlike tree paper, which is not environmentally friendly
>> and not as long-lasting).
>>
>> We can talk about the violence caused by prohibition. Racism.
>> Incarceration. Making people felons and destroying lives.
>>
>> And all of this nonsense to keep some people from blowing off steam?
>> Personally, I reject the entire notion that it's required to "keep people
>> being productive".  Who the hell is anyone to claim what I must produce, or
>> not?  I'm an individual, not a cog in a machine.
>>
>> And that's what offends me, as a non-user of marijuana.  I am an
>> individual.  I am an adult. I make my own damn choices.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-12-18 17:44, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> Ken, I would really love to see your proposed amendments, and Chair Watts
>> would as well.  I agree with you, and would love to see a more solid policy
>> statement.  Will you assist in making this better?
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I do want to reiterate that I'd love to see us bring out a solid policy
>>> statement in this regard.
>>>
>>>
>>> The recent DEA action to reclassify CBD as Schedule I is completely
>>> inexcusable. CBD, beyond other potential health benefits, is medicine for
>>> kids with seizures.  The DEA claims that this totally ridiculous action is
>>> to enforce some UN mandate.
>>>
>>> This is an opportunity to once again tell the public that the
>>> consumption of marijuana, regardless of the THC content, is a peaceful,
>>> voluntary act. For some people, it's about material (industrial hemp). For
>>> other people, it's medicine (CBD, THC). And yes, for some, it's relaxation
>>> (recreational). None of these are violent. Violence is introduced by the
>>> state, when laws are written to prohibit these otherwise peaceful actions.
>>>
>>> I don't consume marijuana, but I don't have to be personally affected to
>>> support the life and liberty of others.
>>>
>>> Despite popular opposition to full legalization, this latest action by
>>> the DEA matters to us here in Kentucky -- a state that continues to expand
>>> its industrial hemp production and passed a medical CBD bill in the past
>>> couple of years.  I've already contacted congressmen in KY, two of which
>>> support Industrial Hemp and CBD (Massie-R, Comer-R).  I'm hopeful that
>>> they'll be successful in overturning the FDA on the CBD classification.
>>> You have to be one special kind of sick jerk to deny kids medicine that
>>> stops them from having seizures.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-12-18 14:28, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you David. I have sent this google link to the Alaska Chair to
>>> follow along, and he plans on tweaking the resolution.  On behalf of the
>>> Alaska Affiliate, I thank my fellow committee members for their attention
>>> to this.  It is important to the affiliate.
>>>
>>> - Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:21 PM, David Demarest <
>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ken: Points well taken and I agree with both.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Caryn: I have the following additional suggestion:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whereas, the enforcement of cannabis and other drugs laws has been
>>>> racist and represents the new Jim Crow, disproportionately targeting and
>>>> impacting people of color and minorities;
>>>>
>>>> Suggested revision: Whereas prohibition has never worked, is almost
>>>> universally ignored, serves primarily as job security for public law
>>>> enforcement and is often applied in an arbitrary *discriminatory*
>>>> manner;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 *Justification*:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would note that racism may well be a factor in prohibition being
>>>> enforced "in an arbitrary discriminatory manner". However, racism is a
>>>> separate but even more important issue that has no place in government and
>>>> would be better handled privately by the application of the more powerful
>>>> tools of economic and social ostracism (boycotts, free-speech editorials,
>>>> shunning, et cetera).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the long run, there is nothing that government can do that we cannot
>>>> do better by using our rational-self-interest developed social contracts
>>>> starting with the Golden Rule and axiomatic action prohibitions based on
>>>> the Non-Aggression Principle. I trust the average person to handle these
>>>> issues in a far more effective and moral manner than self-serving elected
>>>> officials that all too often cave in to the election-driven cronyism
>>>> inherent in *non-competitive* governance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:14 PM
>>>> *To:* Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Marijuana Resolution - Request for
>>>> Co-Sponsors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Ken, I will do that.  If you want to privately email me other
>>>> things you would change the Alaska Chair is actively seeking feedback.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While you are providing AK feedback, I would like to suggest the
>>>> removal of a couple of things....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whereas, cannabis is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco;"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't like the use of "comparatives".  Saying that cannabis is less
>>>> harmful than tobacco and alcohol only encourages the nanny-statists to ban
>>>> tobacco and alcohol.   IMO, we should be framing all arguments from a
>>>> "people have the right to do what they want to do", not a "well those guys
>>>> are allowed to do that and that's worse."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whereas, existing cannabis laws have not had a significant impact on
>>>> cannabis availability;"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This should also be removed. There are many people who would use
>>>> cannabis as a medicinal who are forbidden from doing so.  For that matter,
>>>> the DEA just reclassified/clarified CBD as Schedule I.  It suggests that
>>>> the laws don't work anyway so why is there a need to change them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are some other things I'd change, and re-arrange, but the two
>>>> above should be removed IMO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016-12-18 09:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is a fair point I will bring to Alaska's attention.  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:29 AM Sam Goldstein <
>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other than being entirely too long, I cannot support any resolution
>>>> that "calls on  federal and state legislators to develop new
>>>> programs".  Our goal is to shrink government at all levels, not to increase
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Live free,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>
>>>> Member at Large
>>>>
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>
>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>>
>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I withdrew this from the agenda and deferred to ask by email vote.  The
>>>> Alaska affiliate requested me to bring this before the LNC - requesting
>>>> co-sponsors
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whereas, cannabis is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whereas, existing cannabis laws represent vast government over
>>>>
>>>>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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