[Lnc-business] Enough pussyfooting. Time for a fearless platform.

Sun Jan 1 16:19:45 EST 2017

Attached is David Nolan's Condensed Version from 1977.

But in more serious tones, I echo everything Arvin said.  Hiding the ball
doesn't fool those those hate our ball - hidden or not -  and only
frustrates though that are just dying to find it.  I am not ashamed of what
we believe and drastic societal/economic/political change is accomplished
by clear bold principled stands.  No one goes to the metaphorical stocks
for an uninspiring lawyered-up vision.  We favour the complete and utter
separate of _______ and state. (you can put nearly anything in there - and
certainly with Arvin's position -  education and state).    I personally
love what CO did - set forth clear principled stands but made it clear that
we would support any true step to liberty (i.e. we are not "all or nothing"
- we will take what we can get and then continue to press for the prize):
>From CO:

*Implementation*

We support any measure that actually reduces, and does not replace,
 illegitimate governmental action or violations of the rights of the
individual as put forth in our Preamble and Statement of Principles. While
recognizing that change often takes the form of increments and transitions,
the policies in the planks that follow are to be taken as quickly as
possible. (the "and does not replace" is a recommendation of this year's
LPCO Platform committee).

For every somewhat committed person we think we are gaining  by disguising
our principled positions (and I believe the next two years will show that
is not the case) I hear form multiple "all in" people who say this is the
last chance they are giving the LP. They have had it.

In any event, head counting and popularity tests fail when it comes to an
ideological movement.   Principles. Clear principles are the only thing
that is sure.  Our founders knew that which is why they implanted the
Statement of Principles with a depth charge, and I thank them for it.  If
the Party itself balks at stating what we believe we can't expect anyone
else to buy what we are saying.  The storekeep must be willing to sample
his own wares.

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>

On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am now in favour of Sam's suggestion since Bittner opposes it.
>  #NeverBittner
>
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> While I am a fan of that, I like a bit more specificity.
>>
>> The State: Boo, hiss
>>
>> Was floated in a group I belong to.  We opted for something more detailed.
>>
>> David Nolan's abbreviated platform was quite nice.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I will suggested my 2004 platform revision that I presented
>>> at the Platform Committee meeting prior to the Atlanta
>>> Convention:
>>>
>>> Replace the entire platform with two sentences:
>>>
>>> We don't like government.  Let's get rid of it.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> Member at Large
>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> AMEN!!'
>>>>
>>>> I make the same commitment as Arvin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 1:36 PM Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Arvin Vohra <votevohra at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If 2016 showed us one thing, it's that timid positions are neither
>>>>> necessary nor effective in current politics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our current platform is designed to technically be accurate, while not
>>>>> scaring anyone too badly. This is a losing proposition. A clear, inspiring,
>>>>> and immediately comprehensible platform is far better than the fine-print
>>>>> pretending to be marketing we have now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take the education plank, for example:
>>>>>
>>>>> Education is best provided by the free market, achieving greater
>>>>> quality, accountability and efficiency with more diversity of choice.
>>>>> Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we
>>>>> would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their
>>>>> children, without interference from government. Parents should have control
>>>>> of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children’s education.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What it means: Eliminate all public schools. Let people choose between
>>>>> free, world-class, online offerings, homeschooling, and private education
>>>>> in any form.
>>>>>
>>>>> Intransigent supporters of public schools won't be fooled by the
>>>>> current obfuscation. Opponents and potential opponents won't be inspired.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our job is to convince people of our positions, not to mask our
>>>>> positions and pander. In order for people to be able to be convinced of our
>>>>> positions, they first must understand what the position is.
>>>>>
>>>>> I intend to support people for platform committee who will commit to
>>>>> an honest, comprehensible, fearless platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>
>>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>>> Vice Chair
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Arvin Vohra
>>>>>
>>>>> www.VoteVohra.com
>>>>> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>>>>> (301) 320-3634
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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