[Lnc-business] LPedia

Starchild sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 4 03:14:08 EST 2017 

	Uh yes, I meant nearly 3 years ago, thanks Joshua! I am obviously still adjusting to thinking of this year as 2017. 

	For the full list of "Starchild's questions" on LPedia (at least until the updated edition comes out, lol), please refer to the subsequent message I just posted. And yes, prominently included in that list is a question about whether this will be a full solution in the sense of making LPedia widely editable as a wiki should be. (With all due respect to the Wookiepedia, we do not want it to be the go-to resource for information on the Libertarian Party because our in-house wiki has failed to make the jump to hyperspace!)

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On Jan 3, 2017, at 11:26 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:

> It occurs to me, as the resident mathematician, that this timeline may contain an error.  I strongly suspect that February 2014 was more than 2 years ago.  
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> More substantively, I would suggest that we can deal with Starchild's concerns and those of Representative Harlos, simultaneously.  Let me ask this question to anyone who wishes to answer it, but preferably someone who actually knows the answer - either Harlos or Mr. Moellman:  Given what has been suggested, what motions are needed, both to make the hosting happen, and to then make the asset usable?  I think an answer to that will answer Starchild's questions, while also telling the rest of us what it is that we should do in order to (as I've heard mentioned) not bog down a potential solution with the institutional inertia that has been its downfall.  
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> As Starchild mentions, by the way, I'm puzzled by the existence of a website with "edia" in the name which is not openly editable.  Although, come to think of it, encyclopedias end in "edia" and are only fully editable in the most trivial sense - a sense that involves ripping out pages or drawing on them with crayons and markers.  Maybe it's the "wiki" part that indicates an editable thing?  But the wookiepedia is open to the world to edit...can anyone clarify this issue?
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> Joshua A. Katz
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> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> 	Nearly 2 years ago (Feb. 15, 2014), I posted to the LNC list (in part):
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>> 	There is the makings of an excellent Libertarian Party historical archive in the form of a wiki specifically devoted to the party, at LPedia.org. The site is apparently owned by the LNC (see http://www.whois.com/whois/lpedia.org ). Since LPedia.org remains online, we presumably continue to pay for web hosting, but the site has not been updated since 2008 -- the most recent entries generally appear to be spam (see http://www.lpedia.org/Special:Recentchanges ) -- and I have been unable to log in or create a new account. An email I sent a couple weeks ago towebmaster at lpedia.org has gone unanswered. 
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>> 	This resource has received a significant amount of web traffic (see http://www.lpedia.org/Special:Statistics), but it appears that it is being totally wasted. Does anyone know anything about this? Robert Kraus's name is listed as Admin.
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> 	At that time, I had not heard anyone else in the party leadership talking about it; I discovered the site and raised the issue on my own. I haven't heard what we are paying for what definitely has been a "neglected asset" – can someone supply that information, and where the expense appears in our budget? If we can keep the site while saving money that's a good thing, all else being equal, but hosting is not to my mind the only hurdle to overcome in terms of making it a functional asset. 
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> 	From what I can see, the basic issue is that staff doesn't have time to tightly administer the site, but there has been a reluctance to release our grip on information enough to make it fully functional (allow everyone, or at the very least LP members, to edit it as readily as one can edit Wikipedia) without a big investment of staff time.
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> 	Ken, does the approach you are talking about here address this problem? If so, how? Please be specific.
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> Love & Liberty,
>                                     ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>                                     @StarchildSF
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> On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>> As you all know, I have been the one really pushing for the LPedia issue and I spoke with Ken at length about this, and I am satisfied with this and in fact more than satisfied.  And from what I understand it is a cost savings from what we were paying for this neglected asset, and it becomes a functional assert.
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>> I thank Ken for his hard work and diligence on this.
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>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>> All -
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>> After discussion with Sean and staff, we believe we have found a good, long-term solution for LPedia.  We have found a hosting company who has offered to host LPedia for less than $500/yr.  This solution is a corporate plan with a Virtual Private Server with DDOS protection. They offer advice on best practices as well as services to help block the spam that has plagued LPedia. Best of all, the solution includes support. So, if LPedia has a problem, there's a number to call to get it fixed.
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>> This fixes the technical problems with LPedia and moves us towards our goal of saving the party money.  
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>> I wanted to give the LNC the opportunity to object to this move prior to pulling the trigger.  If you have any questions, please let me know.  
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>> -- 
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
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