[Lnc-business] FW: Marijuana Resolution - Request for Co-Sponsors
Starchild
sfdreamer at earthlink.net
Tue Jan 10 03:53:46 EST 2017
I like David's proposed revision because I think the phrase "people of color" despite being widely used is itself racist and therefore best avoided, but I do think it would be worthwhile to address somewhere in the resolution the disparate impact of the "War on Drugs", perhaps by citing some of the statistics about how often members of various groups are arrested, or who is in jail.
Exactly what the current draft language is, isn't clear to me, but I am certainly supportive of the general idea, especially to the extent it goes beyond discussing only marijuana and references the fundamental right to put whatever we choose into our own bodies.
Also potentially worth mentioning is the March 2016 poll that found 61 percent of Americans support legalizing cannabis – http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/10/14/legal-marijuana-laws-by-state-map-united-states/62772/
The above link also includes a map (updated 11/23/16) listing the current state-by-state status of marijuana laws (the reason I first looked up the page, per Ken's suggestion that we include such info).
Thanks to Jon Watts for taking the initiative in pushing for a resolution on what continues to be a perennially important topic in the fight to defend freedom in the United States.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
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On Jan 9, 2017, at 11:00 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Hello everyone I am bumping this for further comment before Chair Watts submits something revised to me.
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> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Jon Watts <jon.watts at alaskan.com> wrote:
> Thanks!
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> From: Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> Date: 12/22/16 2:25 PM (GMT-09:00)
> To: Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>, Jon Watts <jon.watts at alaskan.com>
> Cc: David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>, "Demarest, David P." <david.demarest at firstdata.com>
> Subject: Re: FW: [Lnc-business] Marijuana Resolution - Request for Co-Sponsors
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> I am bumping this for further input before Chair Watts submits a revised proposal for me.
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> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
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> I will be happy to give input. I am currently a little bogged down with cracking the whip to get the website fixed and to get the IT committee filled out, but the CBD decision is absolutely ridiculous. There are tons of stories of kids who are getting help with CBD, when no other medicine from the pharma companies helped, and this new rule is sentencing kids to having seizures. I mean, seriously, WTF?
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> When I used to do my radio show, I used to emphasize the three different categories: Recreational, Medicinal, and Industrial. I think we should engage MPP or some other outside group like them to give us some stats. # of states with full-legal. # of states with medical THC. # of states with medical CBD. # of states with Industrial Hemp. That's a very good place to start.
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> We could tie in the DEA's latest action as to why full legalization is necessary; because we can't trust the DEA to discern what's "legitimate" and what's "illegitimate" if they're taking CBD away from kids.
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> Industrial Hemp is very good from a "green" perspective, too. Hemp paper is stronger and better. The Constitution is written on hemp, which is why it still exists (unlike tree paper, which is not environmentally friendly and not as long-lasting).
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> We can talk about the violence caused by prohibition. Racism. Incarceration. Making people felons and destroying lives.
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> And all of this nonsense to keep some people from blowing off steam? Personally, I reject the entire notion that it's required to "keep people being productive". Who the hell is anyone to claim what I must produce, or not? I'm an individual, not a cog in a machine.
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> And that's what offends me, as a non-user of marijuana. I am an individual. I am an adult. I make my own damn choices.
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> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
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> On 2016-12-18 17:44, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>> Ken, I would really love to see your proposed amendments, and Chair Watts would as well. I agree with you, and would love to see a more solid policy statement. Will you assist in making this better?
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>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
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>> I do want to reiterate that I'd love to see us bring out a solid policy statement in this regard.
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>> The recent DEA action to reclassify CBD as Schedule I is completely inexcusable. CBD, beyond other potential health benefits, is medicine for kids with seizures. The DEA claims that this totally ridiculous action is to enforce some UN mandate.
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>> This is an opportunity to once again tell the public that the consumption of marijuana, regardless of the THC content, is a peaceful, voluntary act. For some people, it's about material (industrial hemp). For other people, it's medicine (CBD, THC). And yes, for some, it's relaxation (recreational). None of these are violent. Violence is introduced by the state, when laws are written to prohibit these otherwise peaceful actions.
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>> I don't consume marijuana, but I don't have to be personally affected to support the life and liberty of others.
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>> Despite popular opposition to full legalization, this latest action by the DEA matters to us here in Kentucky -- a state that continues to expand its industrial hemp production and passed a medical CBD bill in the past couple of years. I've already contacted congressmen in KY, two of which support Industrial Hemp and CBD (Massie-R, Comer-R). I'm hopeful that they'll be successful in overturning the FDA on the CBD classification. You have to be one special kind of sick jerk to deny kids medicine that stops them from having seizures.
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>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
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>> On 2016-12-18 14:28, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>> Thank you David. I have sent this google link to the Alaska Chair to follow along, and he plans on tweaking the resolution. On behalf of the Alaska Affiliate, I thank my fellow committee members for their attention to this. It is important to the affiliate.
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>> - Caryn Ann
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>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 12:21 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> Ken: Points well taken and I agree with both.
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>> Caryn: I have the following additional suggestion:
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>> "Whereas, the enforcement of cannabis and other drugs laws has been racist and represents the new Jim Crow, disproportionately targeting and impacting people of color and minorities;
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>> Suggested revision: Whereas prohibition has never worked, is almost universally ignored, serves primarily as job security for public law enforcement and is often applied in an arbitrary discriminatory manner;
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>> I would note that racism may well be a factor in prohibition being enforced "in an arbitrary discriminatory manner". However, racism is a separate but even more important issue that has no place in government and would be better handled privately by the application of the more powerful tools of economic and social ostracism (boycotts, free-speech editorials, shunning, et cetera).
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>> In the long run, there is nothing that government can do that we cannot do better by using our rational-self-interest developed social contracts starting with the Golden Rule and axiomatic action prohibitions based on the Non-Aggression Principle. I trust the average person to handle these issues in a far more effective and moral manner than self-serving elected officials that all too often cave in to the election-driven cronyism inherent in non-competitive governance.
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>> ~David Pratt Demarest
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>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:14 PM
>> To: Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
>> Cc: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Marijuana Resolution - Request for Co-Sponsors
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>> Thank you Ken, I will do that. If you want to privately email me other things you would change the Alaska Chair is actively seeking feedback.
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>> -Caryn Ann
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>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
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>> While you are providing AK feedback, I would like to suggest the removal of a couple of things....
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>> "Whereas, cannabis is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco;"
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>> I don't like the use of "comparatives". Saying that cannabis is less harmful than tobacco and alcohol only encourages the nanny-statists to ban tobacco and alcohol. IMO, we should be framing all arguments from a "people have the right to do what they want to do", not a "well those guys are allowed to do that and that's worse."
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>> "Whereas, existing cannabis laws have not had a significant impact on cannabis availability;"
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>> This should also be removed. There are many people who would use cannabis as a medicinal who are forbidden from doing so. For that matter, the DEA just reclassified/clarified CBD as Schedule I. It suggests that the laws don't work anyway so why is there a need to change them?
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>> There are some other things I'd change, and re-arrange, but the two above should be removed IMO.
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>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
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>> On 2016-12-18 09:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
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>> That is a fair point I will bring to Alaska's attention. Thanks!
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>> -Caryn Ann
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>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:29 AM Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Caryn Ann,
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>> Other than being entirely too long, I cannot support any resolution that "calls on federal and state legislators to develop new programs". Our goal is to shrink government at all levels, not to increase it.
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>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I withdrew this from the agenda and deferred to ask by email vote. The Alaska affiliate requested me to bring this before the LNC - requesting co-sponsors
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>> Whereas, cannabis is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco;
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>> Whereas, existing cannabis laws represent vast government over
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> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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