[Lnc-business] Update - MOTION Re: Cuban Regime's Arrest of Libertarian Activists

Thu Feb 23 17:36:53 EST 2017

Brett,

	Going by the link that Zach Foster included in the footnotes of his update, the blog post on LPIN.org may have been written by "a member of the state party" as you say, but it was published on the state party's website by the Indiana LP's vice-chair, Rodney Benker, and includes the language, 

"The Libertarian Party of Indiana joins the Libertarian Parties of Nevada (LPN), New Hampshire (LPNH), and Spain (P-LIB) in demanding the immediate release of Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel Velazquez Visea."  (http://lpin.org/stand-strong-for-jailed-cuban-libertarians/)

	If you're claiming that is inaccurate, it appears your issue is with the Indiana vice-chair, and not with Zach, who faithfully reported what was published on the Indiana LP website, or myself, who faithfully reported the info he provided.

	Regarding the blogging discussion, I agree that blogging raises the potential for miscommunication, misinterpretations, etc. This can be minimized by having a second set of eyes such as the Advertising & Publications Review Committee that you chair, but the only way we can eliminate it completely is not to communicate anything publicly at all.

Love & Liberty,
                                  ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
                               (415) 625-FREE
                                 @StarchildSF

On Feb 23, 2017, at 4:58 AM, Brett Bittner wrote:

> Starchild, 
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> I must object to the assertion that the Libertarian Party of Indiana has "joined" anyone in anything on this matter. The LPIN has not taken any official action or position with regard to the Cuban activists. My understanding is that a member of the state party wrote a blog post that was published on LPIN.org. It was not an official party statement or position on the matter. 
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> To bring this to another point of discussion of the list, this gives us a glimpse of a real world reaction to content being shared by an official party channel, despite it not having any authorized action by the Chairman or state committee. 
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> As Chairman of the APRC, I'm not endorsing a "side" in the blogging discussion, as I believe both have valid points. I'm also not looking forward to increasing the volume of work by my committee, should the LNC decide to task us with reading every prolific member's written word on issues. 
> 
> Brett C. Bittner 
> 
> Region 3 Representative 
> Libertarian National Committee 
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> brett.bittner at lp.org 
> 317.537.8344 
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> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
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> On Feb 23, 2017 07:02, "Starchild" <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> 	Zach Foster of the Nevada LP just wrote to several of us with an update on the Cuban libertarians which I wanted to pass along, as well as a message he sent back on the 13th which I just received, that clarifies a couple points about the original press release. I had tried to reach him previously to get more information, but he was apparently having some communication issues and we hadn't been in contact until now. 
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> 	However I'm impressed with the information Zach put together and just sent in the attached PDF document about the details of what happened, including some testimonials from other Cuban activists that he translated from the Spanish. As well, for those who haven't heard, he reports that the Indiana and New Mexico Libertarian Party affiliates have joined the Nevada, New Hampshire, and Oklahoma LPs in speaking out on this, as well as the Libertarian Party of Spain.
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> 	In support of the LNC joining the above-noted Libertarians in passing a motion, he notes:
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> "Some members of the LP have expressed concerns about Americans interfering in the affairs of other nations. Quite the contrary. No one is advocating trade sanctions on Cuba or sending the Marines to Havana. Instead the LP would be calling international attention to a human rights violation. There is very little we can physically do for Herrera and Velazquez—even Edward Snowden is still a refugee—but we can at least ensure that neither these libertarians nor Mises Cuba are abandoned."
> 
> 	I couldn't agree more, and hope we will do the right thing for them.
> 
> Love & Liberty,
>                                    ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                 (415) 625-FREE
>                                   @StarchildSF
> 
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> On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:36 AM, Zach Foster wrote:
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>> Hi all. A little bird told me the LNC might be voting on something real soon.
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>> If so, here's the most up-to-date (as of an hour ago) fact book on the whole matter.  Please disseminate to other LNC members and also to your state's XCOMs if they're still undecided on this issue as well.
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>> You can call me on my cell with any last minute questions. Please text if I don't answer. 702.409.9063
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>> Zach Foster
>> Senior Contributor
>> 702.401.0423
>> Zach.Foster at lpnevada.org
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>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Zach Foster <zach.foster at lpnevada.org> wrote:
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>> Hello folks!  I apologize for anyone who's tried to reach me. I'm having technical issues with my Google phone number.  If anyone needs to call me, you can reach me on my mobile at 702.409.9063.  (The 702.401 number is the Google number)
>> 
>> I wanted to clarify 2 things:
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>> Mises Cuba is based on the Mises Institute in Auburn, but not affiliated. They are their own institute.  They've attempted to become licensed by the Cuban government, but their overlords have not yet granted them permission to teach free market economics.  The original press release mistakenly referred to Mises Cuba as an affiliate when it's actually an independent organization of liberty-minded folks.  I'm in ongoing contact with Mises Cuba.
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>> Also, Herrera and Velazquez are Cuban citizens.  LP Nevada took up this cause because the detained have no one to speak for them.  The problem is that these Cubans have become inspired by all of us American armchair libertarians who take for granted their ability to throw conventions and conferences and talk about liberty and how bad the state is.  They've attended Mises Circles and libertarian meetings and carried that back to Cuba.  Well, they've been arrested for it--for what we all do on a regular basis without a second thought. In Cuba, it's a matter of who's willing to go mess with State Security and ask questions.  That's why we in LP Nevada are speaking out for their release. We're it.
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>> Nevada and New Hampshire have moved forward with this.  We'll stand up for jailed libertarian activists whether they were locked up by Raul Castro or by the Trump administration.  I hope this clarifies the issue and that you're still willing to stand with us.
>> 
>> Zach Foster
>> Senior Contributor
>> 702.401.0423
>> Zach.Foster at lpnevada.org
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